Re: device independent title attribute support in browsers and follow up question

It is interesting to note that Chaals has shown that it takes trivial effort
to expose title attribute content on focus using CSS, I wonder why no
browser implementors have done so?


regards
stevef

On 9 May 2011 11:29, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote:

> thanks Chaals,
>
> but you didn't actually answer any of the original questions:
>
>
> "Can any of the representatives from browser vendors provide
> information as to when the title attribute will be implemented so:
>
> * keyboard only users are aware that a title attribute is present on an
> element?
> * keyboard only users are able to access the title attribute content
> on an element using the keyboard?
> * The display of the title attribute content is configurable so that
> users of screen magnifiers are able view title attribute content
> within the viewport?
> * access to title attribute content will be available on mobile and
> touch browsers?"
>
> the extension is a nice idea:
>
> Is this something that Opera plan will provide natively?
> keyboard access to content should not be something people have to go and
> seek out an extension for.
> The extension does not provide access to any title attribute content that
> is not on a focusable element. which doesn't resolve the use case for titles
> on images to act as a caption.
>
> regards
> Steve
>
>
> On 9 May 2011 11:18, Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 05 May 2011 11:26:53 +0200, Steve Faulkner <
>> faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Hi all,
>>>
>>> I originally requested feedback on April 19th, since the 2 vendors have
>>> indicated that they have no plans to implement device independent access
>>> to the title attribute.
>>>
>>> Can it be taken that the lack of response from Apple and Opera that they
>>> also have no plans?
>>>
>>
>> No, that would be reading too much into me not replying in a timely
>> manner.
>>
>> FYI I just submitted an extension that does this for Opera. It's described
>> at http://my.opera.com/chaals/blog/keytitle-extension and is extreely
>> trivial - could probably be done for other browsers in a matter of minutes
>> with a bit of copy/paste.
>>
>>  *A further question:*
>>>
>>>
>>> Do any vendors have plans to follow webkit's lead and display the title
>>> attribute content in place of an image when the image is not rendered?
>>>
>>
>> I don't believe we have any such plan (I hope not, too).
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> --
>> Charles McCathieNevile  Opera Software, Standards Group
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>>
>
>
>
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>
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