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Re: Revert request for r5981, and moving forward on ISSUE-129

From: Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 16:25:13 -0500
To: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
Cc: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>, HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>, public-html-request@w3.org, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>
Message-ID: <OFEB4C5B0D.7CD22C44-ON86257870.0074BF2A-86257870.0075AA45@us.ibm.com>


Others will not state this buy I will. The specification change did not
modify the default roles of h1-h6 because the original document section
specified it correctly, There is no reason to require a change for
something that is the same.

Furthermore, the ARIA specification clearly states what the role and levels
apply to for H1 - H6. It is a heading with a level.

People making change requirements are not going to make a change for
something that did not change. Furthermore, nothing in the decision stated
that the default roles for H1-H6 should change either. If you think this is
true please point us to that text in the decision. Otherwise, you are
wasting people's time.

Maciej, I would like to see you point us to where the discrepancy is in the
chairs request as well. I don't need you wasting our time either regardless
of your position as co-chair.

Furthermore , why would would the default roles and levels for H1-H6 be
anything other than  a role of header with a corresponding aria-level that
matches. You are being absurd and ludicrous to think otherwise.


Rich Schwerdtfeger
CTO Accessibility Software Group

From:	Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
To:	Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Cc:	Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, Richard
            Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUS, Paul Cotton
            <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>, HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>,
            public-html-request@w3.org, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>
Date:	04/12/2011 03:13 PM
Subject:	Re: Revert request for r5981, and moving forward on ISSUE-129
Sent by:	public-html-request@w3.org

On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Steve Faulkner wrote:
> I have provided am updated set of spec changes for review by the working
> group: http://www.html5accessibility.com/tests/aria-changesv2.html

This does not accurately reflect the decision. If we're going to correct
the mistakes in the decision, we should correct all of them, not just the
ones you want to correct.

Maciej suggested that instead we should apply the decision as the chairs
made it, and then file bugs to address the issues arising. I suggest we
follow his advice instead of trying to fix the mistakes here.

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