- From: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
- Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 14:41:03 +0200
- To: Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>
- Cc: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>, Michael Smith <mike@w3.org> (tm), Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>, HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>
Sam Ruby, Fri, 24 Sep 2010 07:40:02 -0400:
> On 09/24/2010 07:12 AM, Leif Halvard Silli wrote:
>> Sam Ruby, Thu, 23 Sep 2010 22:28:42 -0400:
>>> On 09/23/2010 08:45 PM, Leif Halvard Silli wrote:
>>>> Sam Ruby, Thu, 23 Sep 2010 19:49:29 -0400:
>>>>> On 09/23/2010 07:19 PM, Leif Halvard Silli wrote:
>>>>>> Sam Ruby, Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:12:51 -0400:
>>>>>>> The poll is available here, and it will run through Wednesday,
>>>>>>> October 7th(*):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/issue-41-objection-poll/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Co-Chairs and Mike,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Reading the socalled "zero-edit" proposal ("heavy-edit" would have been
>>>>>> more accurate names), I discovered info that we have not had in time.
>>>>>
>>>>> The only relevant question at this point is whether the poll should
>>>>> be withdrawn, proposals updated, and then reissued.
>>>>
>>>> I suggest that it should be delayed, yes.
>>>>
>>>> ....
>>>>>> Firstly: The proposal referred to as 'zero-edit', consequently speaks
>>>>>> about Microddata as a "feature" (a feature of HTML), while whereas
>>>>>> HTML5+RDFa is presented as "applicable specification"extension. Draw
>>>>>> you own conclusions. Even if I would have agreed with that proposal,
>>>>>> those comments would hinder me from adding any support.
>>>>>
>>>>> *shrug* People sometimes believe strange things that are at odds
>>>>> with reality. Unless those words appear in the document someplace, I
>>>>> don't think that is relevant.
>>>>
>>>> It appears in the document many places:
>>>
>>> Feel free to object to it.
>>
>> "Unless those words appear in the document someplace"
>>
>> We are supposed to give technically related response, but you suggest I
>> use space in the poll to object to a political matter.
>
> You seem to be objecting to the change proposal. There is a box for
> such objections. If this objection is relevant, it will be
> considered. In any case, I will strongly discourage this point being
> discussed further on this list.
So what did you mean by "Unless those words appear in the document
someplace"? Empty words? I have documented hat it is in the document.
Additionally, Julian has now documented those words appears in the
HTML5 spec itself:
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10717
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10718
> Perhaps the following commit is the one you are looking for:
>
>
http://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/commit-watchers-whatwg.org/2010/004101.html
Indeed. As Masata's messages shows,[*] the editor had a dialogue with
himself.
[*] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Sep/0275.html
>>> We have current allowed for two weeks. Can you state how much time
>>> you feel would be necessary to study this proposal?
>>
>> Those two weeks are for the voters. I think the CP authors should get
>> 3-4 weeks to see if they need to update their proposals. Thereafter,
>> the poll can be restarted. I will also consider reactivating my own
>> proposal.
>
> I just want to be clear: you are asking for a delay because somebody
> *might* want to create yet another proposal?
It does not need to be created. It exists. It just needs to be updated.
I will update my proposal. Perhaps Robert's proposers would like to
update their proposal. And, without doubt, the co-chairs should now
admit the zero-edit proposal again, unless it removes it controversial
texts.
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leif halvard silli
Received on Friday, 24 September 2010 12:42:03 UTC