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Re: ISSUE-128 (figure-in-p): Chairs Solicit Proposals

From: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 20:01:45 +0000 (UTC)
To: Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi>
cc: HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1011011958050.7799@ps20323.dreamhostps.com>
On Mon, 1 Nov 2010, Henri Sivonen wrote:
> On Oct 7, 2010, at 20:04, Ian Hickson wrote:
> >> 
> >> I think both kinds of figures are legitimate and authors should be 
> >> able to use whichever way fits their current design.
> > 
> > What are the two kinds of figures?
> 
> Figures that the author considers as being between paragraphs and 
> figures that the author wants to put inside a paragraph in order to 
> avoid working around the CSS consequences of having the figure element 
> between paragraphs in the document tree when in layout it isn't supposed 
> to look like being between paragraphs but alongside at least one of the 
> paragraphs.

That's a CSS difference, not one relevant to HTML.

Furthermore, it's not even a real problem in CSS. The effect you describe 
can trivially be achieved using features that have been implemented in all 
browsers for years now without much if any manipulation of the markup.

We shouldn't be designing HTML (a language that will be with us for 
decades) around the short-term limitations of CSS. Problems in the 
platform should be fixed correctly, not using band-aid techniques.

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