- From: Joe D Williams <joedwil@earthlink.net>
- Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:24:28 -0800
- To: "Leif Halvard Silli" <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
- Cc: "Jonas Sicking" <jonas@sicking.cc>, <public-html@w3.org>
>>>>>>>>> meant to mark a DOM subtree pruned from all presentations on >>>>>>>>> all media. I interpreted the use of the term "pruned" as being, well, like not there anymore, or after parsing, evermore. It got clipped off and never got to make a bud (node). Hidden stuff is rejected up front, I was thinking. So, a player in a @hidden element that was "pruned" would not be there, so no problem. But I am still not understanding or missed a use case for this. . Thank You and Best Regards, Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leif Halvard Silli" <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no> To: "Joe D Williams" <joedwil@earthlink.net> Cc: "Jonas Sicking" <jonas@sicking.cc>; <public-html@w3.org> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 5:34 PM Subject: Re: ISSUE-95 hidden - Chairs Solicit Proposals > Joe D Williams, Fri, 29 Jan 2010 15:36:37 -0800: > > Is <hidden> better than @declare/@hidden? > > [...] >>>>>>>>> The hidden attribute is meant to mark a DOM subtree pruned >>>>>>>>> from all presentations on all media. >> >> I am reaching some due to the <iframe with @sandbox and >> <sandbox></sandbox> [...] so why not an element? > > And then you proposed two alternatives to @hidden/@declare: > >> <head> >> <mystuff [space separated strings representing name.id containers >> that are to be hidden as quoted above] /> >> </head> > [...] >> Or, in the body >> >> <hidden> >> <htmlstuffthatshouldnotbeincluded... > >> </hidden> > > A <hidden> element could not live up to the benefits of > @hidden/@declare, as it would meddle with the DOM. (E.g. consider > <hidden><caption></caption></hidden> - doesn't work.) Keeping a list > of > the hidden elements in the <head> would not meddle with the DOM - > but > such an extra indirection would complicate things severely. > > Another issue to consider w.r.t. @hidden/@declare is the earlier > discussed the autoplay feature of <video>/<audio>: What happens to > <video> if it is @hidden? E.g. does it still load? And so on. > -- > leif halvard silli
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