- From: Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>
- Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 12:36:07 -0400
- To: HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>
Available at:
http://www.w3.org/2010/04/01-html-wg-minutes.html
Text version
W3C HTML Weekly Teleconference 01 Apr 2010
Agenda
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Mar/0810.html
See also: IRC log
http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/html-wg/20100401#l-104
Chair
Paul Cotton
Scribe
Sam Ruby
Contents
* Topics
1. Issues Pending Review
2. ACTION items due by Thu Apr 1
3. ACTION items pending review
4. WG Decision Policy update (Maciej)
5. Call For Consensus that close by Apr 1
6. Call for Proposals/Counter Proposals that close by Thu Apr 1
7. Items that close next week (by Thu Apr 8)
8. New Calls for Proposals/Consensus this Week
9. New Calls for Counter Proposals this Week
10. New Issues This Week
11. Scribe for next meeting
* Summary of Action Items
http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/178
<trackbot> Date: 01 April 2010
<scribe> scribe: rubys
<pimpbot> Title: {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2010-04-01: action items,
decision policy update, issue status from Paul Cotton on 2010-03-30
(public-html-wg-announce@w3.org from January to March 2010) (at
lists.w3.org)
<Julian> Zaki, who's on the phone?
<paulc> Is the scribe ready?
yes, go for it! :-)
<Julian> was that the markup police?
<paulc> Agenda
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Mar/0810.html
<pimpbot> Title: {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2010-04-01: action items,
decision policy update, issue status from Paul Cotton on 2010-03-30
(public-html@w3.org from March 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
1. Issues Pending Review
paulc: none this week
2. ACTION items due by Thu Apr 1
paulc: chairs preprocessed the actions, so no are due today.
3. ACTION items pending review
paulc: action item 176 was on Sam, and is done, and the chairs are
waiting for a response
close action-176
<trackbot> ACTION-176 Respond to the TAG request on polyglot documents
closed
adrian: I volunteered on list, and maciej has responded. I would like to
see if there are others interested in volunteering.
<adrianba> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Apr/0015.html
<pimpbot> Title: RE: Request for Volunteers: Polyglot spec from Adrian
Bateman on 2010-04-01 (public-html@w3.org from April 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
<adrianba> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Apr/0017.html
<pimpbot> Title: Re: Request for Volunteers: Polyglot spec from Maciej
Stachowiak on 2010-04-01 (public-html@w3.org from April 2010) (at
lists.w3.org)
paulc: are you looking for additional help, or determining if you need
to coordinate
adrian: the latter, if we get multiple volunteers I would rather
collaborate up front than merge later
4. WG Decision Policy update (Maciej)
mjs: I started on making some updates, starting with simple and
relatively uncontroversial items.
... there are likely bigger changes coming up: watch for more changes,
and comments are welcome at any time
... any questions?
paulc: the chairs will continue to talk about the harder issues, you
will continue to edit the document, and when the time comes we will
issue a call for consensus.
5. Call For Consensus that close by Apr 1
paulc: none close today
6. Call for Proposals/Counter Proposals that close by Thu Apr 1
issue-4?
<trackbot> ISSUE-4 -- HTML Versioning and DOCTYPEs -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/4
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-4 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
issue-84?
<trackbot> ISSUE-84 -- Should spec discourage use of "legacy" doctypes?
-- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/84
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-84 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
paulc: both proposals and counter proposals are in place
issue-81?
<trackbot> ISSUE-81 -- Offline Web Applications section should use the
term "representation" instead of "resource" -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/81
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-81 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
paulc: the TAG is late, and the chairs are negotiating a new date for
this item (we are still expecting a proposal)
issue-82?
<trackbot> ISSUE-82 -- Suggested replacement for head/@profile does not
provide for disambiguation -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/82
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-82 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
paulc: julian has requested a 3 week extension, and the chairs have not
formally responded yet; we want to see progress on other issues before
we answer
issue-86?
<trackbot> ISSUE-86 -- HTML5 relaxes Atom requirement on atom:id
stability -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/86
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-86 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
paulc: julian has requested a 2 week extension, and the chairs will
likely deal with this by the next chair call
issue-89?
<trackbot> ISSUE-89 -- Remove Section 4.12 Common Idioms without
dedicated Elements -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/89
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-89 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
issue-90?
<trackbot> ISSUE-90 -- Tighten the focus and allowable content in the
figure element -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/90
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-90 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
issue-91?
<trackbot> ISSUE-91 -- Re-focus and tighten definition of the aside
element -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/91
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-91 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
issue-92?
<trackbot> ISSUE-92 -- Re-write the Table section to remove extraneous
material, and provide cleaner description -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/92
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-92 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
issue-93?
<trackbot> ISSUE-93 -- Delete Details Element -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/93
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-93 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
issue-94?
<trackbot> ISSUE-94 -- Split Web Application Core and UA specific
elements into separate spec -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/94
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-94 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
issue-95?
<trackbot> ISSUE-95 -- Remove/Discard the Hidden Attribute -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/95
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-95 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
issue-96?
<trackbot> ISSUE-96 -- Remove/Discard the Progress Element -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/96
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-96 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
issue-97?
<trackbot> ISSUE-97 -- Remove/Discard the Meter Element -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/97
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-97 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
issue-100?
<trackbot> ISSUE-100 -- Remove the srcdoc attribute from the HTML5
specification -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/100
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-100 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
paulc: 15 calls for change proposals, and we received 12 out of 15. The
chairs will continue negotiating.
... maciej has updated the issue-status page
<pimpbot> Title: Patial Change request proposal for Issue 74 Canvas
accessibility from Richard Schwerdtfeger on 2010-03-18
(public-html@w3.org from March 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
paulc: the A11y TF has reviewed these, and may prepare counter-proposals
<Zakim> MikeSmith, you wanted to note
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Mar/0435.html is a
change proposal submitted for issue 74, and wondering where this one is
at on
<pimpbot> Title: Patial Change request proposal for Issue 74 Canvas
accessibility from Richard Schwerdtfeger on 2010-03-18
(public-html@w3.org from March 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
<paulc> I brought this to Chairs attention during the A11y TF call
mike: Richard has prepared a partial change proposal which affects 74,
and mike believes that this is ready for consideration
paulc: the co-chairs will take this up; we make make a call for counter
proposals as there has been essentially no discussion
8. Items that close next week (by Thu Apr 8)
issue-56?
<trackbot> ISSUE-56 -- Bring "URLs" section/definition and IRI
specification in alignment. -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/56
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-56 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
issue-99?
<trackbot> ISSUE-99 -- meta/@scheme missing -- RAISED
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/99
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-99 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
issue-102?
<trackbot> ISSUE-102 -- Registration procedure for meta/@name -- RAISED
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/102
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-102 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
issue-104?
<trackbot> ISSUE-104 -- Clarify that mime type sniffing is optional -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/104
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-104 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
paulc: all close on April 5th (Monday)
9. New Calls for Proposals/Consensus this Week
paulc: none
10. New Calls for Counter Proposals this Week
paulc: none
11. New Issues This Week
<mjs> issue-105?
<trackbot> ISSUE-105 -- allow image maps on the canvas element -- RAISED
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/105
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-105 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
<mjs> issue-106?
<trackbot> ISSUE-106 -- Return the concept of Obsolete but conforming
back to using obsolete and deprecated -- RAISED
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/106
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-106 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
paulc: two new issues, 105 and 106
... any other "escallations" pending?
mjs: there are a number of issues with TrackerRequest tag, some are not
in the proper state; we will give the authors a chance to raise the
issue if they access, or otherwise we will assist with this work
paulc: I note that 105 has an A11y aspect to it; Mike can you bring it
to the attention of the A11y task force.
mike: Steven is the one that raised it, and I will follow up with
Steven; he will need to be the one to take the lead
12. Scribe for next meeting
<plh> regrets for next week
mjs: I will chair next wee
paulc: I will scribe
<paulc> Any other business?
<paulc> Sam is concerned about muttiple WGs using the same MIME type?
<paulc> What is the other WG?
plh: xhtml2 is not fully closed yet, and we will let them do their updates
... they are working on the xhtml1.1 documents
... at the moment we would have two groups using the same mime type
paulc: did that answer the question as to what other working group is
touching the mime type?
julian: yes, but it doesn't answer the question as to whether this
appropriate
plh: we will need to bring this to the coordination group
... it would send a strong message if the HTML5 working group were to
state that they are the only one who should use the text/html MIME type
julian: the W3C owns the mime type; from an architectural point of view
it doesn't matter unless the XHTML wg updates the mime type
paulc: is there actually a chair in place for the XHTML2 working group?
plh: yes
paulc: perhaps we can invite the co-chair to a telecon?
plh: I'm willing to take an action item to contact the chairs
paulc: that's the best way to deal with this
<scribe> ACTION: plh to contact the various chairs/co-chairs to resolve
the use of the text/html mime type [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2010/04/01-html-wg-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-178 - Contact the various chairs/co-chairs to
resolve the use of the text/html mime type [on Philippe Le Hégaret - due
2010-04-08].
<Julian> - clarifying - a document with new info about text/html is
irrelevant from a standards point of view unless the mime type
registration is updated to point to it
paulc: does this deal with the agenda item?
rubys: yes
<paulc> Adjounred at :30 after the hour.
paulc: adjourned
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