- From: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
- Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:41:08 +0200
- To: Lars Gunther <gunther@keryx.se>
- CC: public-html@w3.org, Shelley Powers <shelleyp@burningbird.net>
Lars Gunther On 09-09-18 18.41: > 2009-09-18 17:01, Leif Halvard Silli skrev: >> Lars Gunther On 09-09-18 16.21: >>> Which means that all of a sudden dd can come before dt? That would be >>> counter intuitive. >> Yes, that is part of the current solution to figure in the draft. (And I >> admit responsibility for having suggested it [1].) >> >> [1] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6543#c5 > > So just let me state that in my book we do not have a workable solution. I think you're right. <snip> > <p caption> > > The predictable downside of that is of course that it requires rules > about what elements that could be used with such an attribute. (I > suggest p only!) If you suggest <p> only, would you then also suggest another content model for <p> when used as caption? Again, I miss that the proponents of <element caption> tells us whether it is allowed as first element only, or if it should allowed as last element, as well. > Another downside is that the solution is crufty and perhaps will open a > Pandora's box of follow on suggestions about new attributes for many > more uses as well. Ha ha. <dl figure > and <dl details > comes to mind. > All in all, I think these downsides are a lot easier to overcome than > the ones associated with dt/dl. dt/dl is simple. dt/dt/figure is worse :-) I would also say that I don't think it holds water to only use <element caption> for <figure>. One would have to use it for <details> also. Or what do your students think? Else we get two ways of doing captions. Another reason for not using <dt><dd> whether in <details> or <figure> is the fact that in IE6 and IE7, neither DD nor DT gets closed, if it is the last element of <figure>[1]. (<dialog> had the same problem.) I'm sure that if we talk any more about the problems with <figure> and <details> now, then Ian closes the entire elements. ;-) [1] http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/js/live-dom-viewer/saved/235 -- leif halvard silli
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