FYI, for the Unicode conference I updated the Unicode Growth chart to with
newer data. It continues the trends we found about 15 months earlier.
http://www.macchiato.com/main/updated-unicode-growth
Mark
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 21:14, Mark Davis ☕ <mark@macchiato.com> wrote:
> I'm a little late to this discussion, so please forgive me if I'm covering
> ground people have already discussed.
>
> But focusing on advice to developers, I'd suggest replacing 6 and 7 in
> http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#determining-the-character-encoding,
> by the following 3 numbered items.
>
> - Test if the bytes are valid UTF-8. If they are, return return that
> encoding, with the confidence<http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#concept-encoding-confidence>
> *tentative*, and abort these steps.
> - *[include note about UTF-8 patterns, maybe reworded a bit.]*
> - The user agent may attempt to autodetect the character encoding *[include
> rest of #5]*
> - Otherwise, return an implementation-defined or user-specified default
> character encoding, with the confidence<http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#concept-encoding-confidence>
> *tentative*. Due to its widespread use as a default in legacy content,
> windows-1252 is recommended as a default in the absences of other
> information.
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 19:57, Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch> wrote:
>
>> On 11 Oct 2009, at 18:39, Larry Masinter <masinter@adobe.com> wrote:
>>
>> Can someone please explain, again, why the discussion of default
>>> configurations of a particular category of user agent in various
>>> regions belongs in the definition of the HyperText Markup Language?
>>>
>>> What benefit can any author of a web page derive, please, from
>>> knowing what the default settings of various browsers in products
>>> sold into various language environments?
>>>
>>
>> Authors aren't the only target audience of this specification.
>> Implementors benefit from advice suggesting default encodings. Users benefit
>> from consistency in implementations.
>>
>> --
>> Ian Hickson
>>
>>
>