- From: Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>
- Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:30:23 -0400
- To: Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>
- CC: Anne van Kesteren <annevk@opera.com>, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>, "public-html@w3.org" <public-html@w3.org>
Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > > On Mar 30, 2009, at 5:30 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: > >> Is someone willing to volunteer to work with and M. Duerst and M. >> Suignard to see to it that the revision is something that is usable by >> the HTML 5 Working Draft? >> >> Alternatives: DanC continues to pursue a separate draft, or Ian >> continues include this section in HTML 5. > > Pardon if this is stating the obvious, but to make an informed decision > we need to know the following: > > 1) What specifically are the processing differences between LEIRIs and > Web Addresses (or HTML5 pre-processed URIs if you prefer)? It seems like > some of these are know, but not all. > > 2) Are the current IRI/LEIRI editors amenable to making changes for > real-world compatibility? > > From my point of view, it is essential to have a specification that > correctly describes what user agents must do to process URLs in public > Web content. It would be even better if that were the primary officially > IETF spec for *R*s, but having at least one correct specification is > more important than consolidation. So we should figure out if a unified > spec would be able to match real-world constraints before we sign on for > it. > > Having worked on Safari since its inception, I very clearly recall the > amount of crazy reverse engineering we had to do to figure out URL > processing, after initially naively assuming that the URI RFC specified > what we had to do. It took multiple releases to get closer to the actual > de facto standard, and I'm not even 100% sure we are there today. This > is definitely a significant barrier to entry for any tool that wants to > process Web content and we should definitely work to get it fixed. DanC is "sort of volunteering"[1]. His approach of collecting test cases in order to have a more productive discussion along the lines of the questions you are asking seems eminently sane to me. If you would happen to have any, I'm sure he would appreciate it. > Regards, > Maciej [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Mar/0709.html
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