- From: Steven Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
- Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:31:40 +0100
- To: Philip Taylor <pjt47@cam.ac.uk>
- Cc: public-html@w3.org
thanks philip, it is exactly what i wanted. from a quick review [1] of a sample of pages (where class="header" is used more than once on a page) of your sample, the usage of class="header" appears to bear little relationship to the specification of the <header> element in HTML5 [2] it appears to be mainly used to indicate a heading for styling purposes <SPAN class=Header>Want to Join?</SPAN> <table class="header" id="neutral_hmenu"> <table width="100%" class="header" id="neutral"> <table class="header" id="see_also"> <li class="header"> [1] http://www.nlsme.co.uk/ http://www.nhai.org/ http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Football/SPL/Hibernian http://www.olegnazarov.ru/ [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/semantics.html#the-header-element regards stevef 2009/3/28 Philip Taylor <pjt47@cam.ac.uk>: > Steven Faulkner wrote: >> >> hi philip, >> can you provide some urls for this data? > > Not sure exactly what you're looking for, but I've uploaded: > > http://philip.html5.org/data/class-header-counts.txt > http://philip.html5.org/data/class-footer-counts.txt > > Those are the lists of pages with class="header"/"footer", giving number of > occurrences per page. > >> regards >> steve >> >> 2009/3/28 Philip Taylor <pjt47@cam.ac.uk>: >>> >>> Steven Faulkner wrote: >>>> >>>> hey anne, >>>> the google data gives no indication of the number of uses of a >>>> particular class name on a web page, if for example the class name >>>> "header" was in the main only used once, then it effectively the same >>>> as the other data, so if the google data is being used as >>>> justification for the way the header is currently specced it does not >>>> provide adequate evidence. >>>> >>>> is there data available that shows 'header' is used as a class name >>>> in the majority or even often more than once in web pages >>> >>> Looking at pages listed on dmoz.org a few months ago, using >>> case-insensitive >>> matching: >>> >>> Total number of pages: 127086 >>> >>> Pages with any class="header": 3279 >>> >>> Pages with 1 class="header": 2351 >>> Pages with 2 class="header": 322 >>> Pages with 3 class="header": 168 >>> Pages with 4 class="header": 89 >>> Pages with 5 class="header": 87 >>> Pages with 6..10 class="header": 169 >>> Pages with > 10 class="header": 93 >>> >>>> same goes for 'footer' >>> >>> Pages with any class="footer": 6765 >>> >>> Pages with 1 class="footer": 4471 >>> Pages with 2 class="footer": 843 >>> Pages with 3 class="footer": 427 >>> Pages with 4 class="footer": 256 >>> Pages with 5 class="footer": 125 >>> Pages with 6..10 class="footer": 405 >>> Pages with > 10 class="footer": 238 > > -- > Philip Taylor > pjt47@cam.ac.uk > -- with regards Steve Faulkner Technical Director - TPG Europe Director - Web Accessibility Tools Consortium www.paciellogroup.com | www.wat-c.org Web Accessibility Toolbar - http://www.paciellogroup.com/resources/wat-ie-about.html
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