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Re: SVG in text/html

From: Andreas Neumann <a.neumann@carto.net>
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:55:05 +0100 (CET)
Message-ID: <47024.>
To: "Jonas Sicking" <jonas@sicking.cc>
Cc: public-html@w3.org, www-svg@w3.org
Hi all,

I personally would prefer a stricter error handling for SVG. Lets not
forget that SVG is used on a lot of applications and places besides the

* Publishing workflows with XSL-FO
* Desktop Environments (such as KDE4)
* Application development (such as qt-software)
* Settop boxes
* Game consoles
* HMI for industrial devices
* Multimedia display systems
* mobile phones
* Picture Frames
* Graphics Exchange formats (e.g. between Inkscape, Scribus, Gimp, Google
Docs (and hopefully Openoffice some day))

and a lot more. SVG is not just about web browsers. There is also average
Joe the programmer who probably wants to parse SVG for his own purposes
some day. If SVG is strict XML, this is so much easier.

If webbrowsers start to accept crappy SVG syntax it will encourage the
spread of crappy SVG content and thus force the other developers, users
and applications besides webbrowser to also parse invalid syntaxes.

It would be more productive for developers of SVG viewers/software to
concentrate on implementing the spec and improving performance than having
to deal with parsing issues.

I understand that webbrowsers have these quirk modes already implemented
for HTML and could thus adopt similar mechanisms to SVG - but I don't
think they are doing SVG a favour with this move.

Just my two cents,

On Fri, March 27, 2009 1:34 am, Jonas Sicking wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:50 AM, T.V Raman <raman@google.com> wrote:
>> to echo what you say, I believe the error-correction proposal as
>> suggested has all the drawbacks of tag minimization from SGML in
>>  the late 80's and 90's.
>> That is what made SGML  a language that required "experts"  for
>> effective deployment.
> Do you feel the same way about the error correction in HTML? It would
> seem that HTML has managed to break into the market of non-expert
> authors. Though it is of course possible that it would have done a
> better job of it had it not had the error correction it has.
> / Jonas

Andreas Neumann
Received on Friday, 27 March 2009 07:56:49 UTC

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