- From: Andy Mabbett <andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk>
- Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:51:14 +0000
- To: whatwg@lists.whatwg.org, public-html@w3.org
In message <p06240841c5deeed58fb1@[17.202.35.52]>, David Singer <singer@apple.com> writes >At 17:53 +0100 12/03/09, Julian Reschke wrote: >>Geoffrey Sneddon wrote: >>>... >>>Ultimately, why is the Gregorian calendar good enough for the ISO but >>>not us? I'm sure plenty of arguments were made to the ISO before >>>ISO8601 was published, yet that still supports only the Gregorian >>>calendar, having been revised twice since it's original publication >>>in 1988. Is there really any need to go beyond what ISO 8601 >>>supports? >>>... >> >>Indeed. >> >>We aren't the subject matter experts on calendars and date formats, so >>why do we pretend we are? > >I agree. As I said before, if we want a tag to express that a date is >in a different calendar system, we are not going either to invent those >tags or define the notation and conversion of those calendar systems >here. We can and should rely on groups like ISO. If we're still discussing my proposal; I have not suggested "inventing tags" nor "defining notations", merely allowing space for others (such as ISO) to do so. What I wrote was: The issue of non-Gregorian (chiefly Julian) dates is a vexing one; and has already caused problems on Wikipedia. So far as I am aware, there is no ISO-, RFC- or similar standard for such dates, other than converting them to Gregorian dates. It is not the job of the HTML5 working group to solve this problem; but I think the group should recognise that at some point a solution must be forthcoming. One way to do so would be allow something like: <time schema="[schema-name]" datetime="[value]">[date in plain text]</time> where the schema defaults to ISO 8601 if not stated, and the whole element is treated as simply: [date in plain text] if the schema is unrecognised; thereby ensuring backwards compatibility. That way, if a hypothetical ISO- or other standard for Julian dates emerges in the future, authors may simply start to use it without any revision to HTML 5 being required. -- Andy Mabbett Says "NO! to compulsory UK ID Cards": <http://www.no2id.net/> and: "Free Our Data": <http://www.freeourdata.org.uk> (both also on Facebook)
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