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Re: Draft text for summary attribute definition

From: Philip TAYLOR <P.Taylor@Rhul.Ac.Uk>
Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:03:17 +0000
Message-ID: <49AAB1C5.2080502@Rhul.Ac.Uk>
To: Leif Halvard Silli <lhs@malform.no>
CC: Philip TAYLOR <Philip-and-LeKhanh@Royal-Tunbridge-Wells.Org>, public-html@w3.org, W3C WAI-XTECH <wai-xtech@w3.org>


Leif Halvard Silli wrote:

> Philip TAYLOR 2009-03-01 11.33:

>> But we are not discussing where the summary should appear visually;
> 
> As if I do? Where is that shaddow you're fighting?

But where are these cells, if not in the physical
(visual) realisation ?  I see no cells in the markup;
all I see are table data and table headings, which
are container elements rather than cells.
> 
>> we are discussing where it should appear in the markup.
> 
> right.
> 
>>  And in the
>> markup, <TABLE> is the 'one "cell" - or place - that relates to all
>> the cells', so it is surely as an attribute of <TABLE> that "summary"
>> should appear.
> 
> Here is a comparison:
> 
> The name of <table> is from now on <html>.
> The name of <tbody> is from now on <body>.
> The name of <caption> - now called <head>.

But <head> elements are defined not to appear in
the rendered page; caption, on the other hand,
is expected to be rendered.

> So, no, I don't see why <caption> is a "totally unrelated concept". For 
> some reason, there is no problem accepting that meta-information and 
> "What this page is about" information goes into the <head> element.

Yes, it goes into the <head> element because the metadata
are not to be rendered.

Philip TAYLO
Received on Sunday, 1 March 2009 16:04:04 UTC

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