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Re: ACTION-128: Draft @summary voting text in conjunction with PF

From: Shelley Powers <shelley.just@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 08:03:35 -0500
Message-ID: <643cc0270907080603j41b46ae3oc33b2a1fda355718@mail.gmail.com>
To: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
Cc: Joshue O Connor <joshue.oconnor@cfit.ie>, public-html@w3.org, wai-xtech@w3.org
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:31 AM, Ian Hickson<ian@hixie.ch> wrote:
>
> Joshue,
>
> Given the recent changes to the spec, two of the options I previously
> suggested for the vote are now equivalent, so I propose we change the
> options we propose to the working group this Thursday to:
>
>   What do you think HTML5 should say about making complex data tables
>   more accessible?
>
>    ( ) HTML5 should encourage authors to use the summary="" attribute
>        that was introduced in HTML4.
>
>    ( ) The text currently in the HTML5 spec, discouraging summary="" but
>        encouraging other mechanisms for describing tables, is fine.
>        http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/tabular-data.html#table-descriptions
>
>    ( ) Something else, described below.
>
>   If you said "something else", please describe it here: [_____]
>
> I think if we have these options we should definitely also include a
> 150-word essay for each of the first two options, written by proponents of
> those options, that argue each case, so that people who aren't familiar
> with the issues can read up on them before voting.
>
> What do you think? Is this what we should propose to the working group?
> Sam informs me that we're supposed to decide this by tomorrow (Thursday),
> for presentation to the group by the conference call.
>
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>

All due respect to Joshue, since he was the one tasked with creating
the vote question (with PF), the text for this vote loads the deck
against summary by tying it directly to HTML 4, while highlighting
that your choice is already in the HTML 5 specification.

Each should be given as recommended text, and spelled out in the vote.
Bring out the specification text, as recommended by PF, for summary,
list with the text extracted from the HTML 5 document (which shouldn't
have been added  until after the vote, to be fair), and then allow
both to be voted on by their merits.

Shelley
Received on Wednesday, 8 July 2009 13:04:25 UTC

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