- From: Philip Taylor <pjt47@cam.ac.uk>
- Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:52:24 +0000
- To: Steven Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
- CC: HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>, W3C WAI-XTECH <wai-xtech@w3.org>, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
Steven Faulkner wrote: > The recently released code editor Bespin ( > https://bespin.mozilla.com/index.html) is a great example of the utility of > the canvas element, its also a worrying example of the barriers to > accessibility its use will produce. It includes editable text, folder lists > and interactive elements that are all essentially a graphic. there does not > appear to be a way to extract any usable information to support Assistive > technology to interpret or provide interaction. > > [...] > > Are there plans to provide mechanisms to add accessibility hooks for content > produced using canvas? As providing a secondary accessible version of an > application such as bespin seems like a non starter, and is a prime example > of the sort of "bolt on" accessibility that HTML5 was trying to move away > from. As far as I can tell, the non-bolted-on accessible way to implement Bespin would be using HTML (with textarea, contenteditable, etc) and CSS, not canvas. Its current use of canvas hurts fully-capable graphical browsers too, e.g. I can't copy-and-paste text between Bespin and any other application, and I can't edit its text with my OS's usual key bindings. http://benzilla.galbraiths.org/2009/02/17/bespin-and-canvas/ indicates that canvas was chosen because of concerns over the performance and controllability of other solutions. It'd be good to see if those concerns could be addressed in the long term by changes to the specs or by fixing browser bugs, to remove the reasons for inappropriately using canvas. The main problem I see with adding built-in (as opposed to bolt-on) accessibility to canvas is that I can't even begin to imagine any way that could ever possibly work at all :-). That may be largely because my imagination is limited - I'd be interested in concrete suggestions of how it could be done. Otherwise I can't think of anything the spec could say to help accessibility here. -- Philip Taylor pjt47@cam.ac.uk
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