- From: L. David Baron <dbaron@dbaron.org>
- Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 23:50:55 -0700
- To: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>, Simon Pieters <simonp@opera.com>, Philip Taylor <pjt47@cam.ac.uk>, hyatt@apple.com, HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>
On Thursday 2008-05-22 20:28 -0700, L. David Baron wrote: > On Friday 2008-05-23 03:19 +0000, Ian Hickson wrote: > > On Mon, 3 Mar 2008, Simon Pieters wrote: > > > > > > > > I've got some data about doctypes at > > > > http://philip.html5.org/data/doctypes.html (125K pages from dmoz.org) > > > > and http://philip.html5.org/data/doctypes-alexa.html (about 400 from > > > > Alexa's list). I'm not entirely sure what this could be useful for, > > > > but I'll point out a couple of things here. > > > > > > [...] This means that Opera would break about 0.05% of pages of this > > > sample if we implemented HTML5 doctype switching, assuming that the > > > remaining pages I didn't look at were the same. > > It looks (from the limited context in the email) that you're talking > about making quirks-mode detection handle pages where the author has > manually changed the "EN" in the FPI to match the language of the > page content, or similar. > > Are the data you present showing that pages with these broken > DOCTYPEs break if they're not in quirks mode, or simply that pages > have these broken doctypes? It's a pretty significant difference. Ah, it wasn't in the URLs quoted, but it was clear in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Mar/0013.html that the finding was really the former. Given that, I don't object to this change, although I would encourage being very hesitant to expand quirks mode to more pages. I suppose it's a pretty small set, though. (Does anybody have any data on which quirks pages (these, or quirks mode pages in general) actually depend on?) -David -- L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ Mozilla Corporation http://www.mozilla.com/
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