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Re: [html4all] HTML5 Alternative Text, and Authoring Tools

From: Dave Singer <singer@apple.com>
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 10:34:44 -0400
Message-Id: <p0624080ec44f561f1bff@[]>
To: Matt Morgan-May <mattmay@adobe.com>, Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>
Cc: Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi>, HTML Working Group <public-html@w3.org>, W3C WAI-XTECH <wai-xtech@w3.org>

At 13:04  -0700 12/05/08, Matt Morgan-May wrote:
>Yes, that was somewhat of an overstatement. However, we have seen many of
>the accessibility-related features of HTML stripped at this point, @alt
>being only the most egregious example. Taken together, it's reasonable to
>conclude that accessibility is not being taken seriously, and I doubt that
>authors will do much to reverse the trend when they're given an inferior
>toolset with which to do it.

No, I am sorry, I feel you are demeaning people.  If people didn't 
take accessibility seriously, they'd just abide by the letter of the 
advice they were given, and move on, and not worry about whether that 
actually worked in practice, and whether the spirit of the 
recommendations was being satisfied.  That's not happening;  people 
care enough to ask whether the design will be effective in practice, 
and are struggling to do the best they can in practice.  This is 
miles away from "not taken seriously".

I don't have a position on this debate, but I am looking to learn 
about how to do good accessibility.  "Don't give me a fish, teach me 
how to fish" -- don't just tell me what do do, tell me why and how it 
achieves a useful result.  Then I will have learned something and can 
apply it to other designs and specifications I work on.
David Singer
Received on Tuesday, 13 May 2008 14:36:44 UTC

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