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Re: Deciding in public (Was: SVGWG SVG-in-HTML proposal)

From: Sam Ruby <rubys@us.ibm.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:27:52 -0400
To: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
Cc: "'HTML WG'" <public-html@w3.org>
Message-ID: <OFFEAF19CB.207FEFC2-ON85257497.007AC194-85257497.007B66EF@us.ibm.com>

Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch> wrote on 07/31/2008 05:01:08 PM:
> To give the specific example of the namespace parsing mechanism that IE
> implements which you have put forward several times: I read the
> that Microsoft put forward on the day they announced it, and considered
> carefully as I was reading it. I also had already considered IE7's
> behaviour, and considered IE8's parsing behaviour as soon as I had IE8
> installed and had gotten the workaround for their attribute DOM handling
> bug sorted out (thanks Philip`). You've since brought it up at least half

> a dozen times, both here and on your blog, and gotten a response each
> (almost certainly a progressively shorter and shorter response), saying
> that those ideas had already been considered. You have never introduced
> new information, indeed as far as I can tell you haven't actually
> seriously considered what the proposal is and have never shown an actual
> example demonstrating that you truly understand Microsoft's proposal.
> What could I change in the way I respond to issues to make you feel like
> your suggestion has been seriously considered, as it indeed has?

For starters, "You have never introduced new information" and "as far as I
can tell you haven't actually seriously considered what the proposal is"
are not conducive to a creating a constructive environment a sustainable
productive dialog.

Others seem to have come to a different conclusion:


- Sam Ruby
Received on Thursday, 31 July 2008 22:36:14 UTC

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