- From: Robert J Burns <rob@robburns.com>
- Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:34:16 +0300
- To: Smylers <Smylers@stripey.com>
- Cc: "public-html@w3.org" <public-html@w3.org>
Hi Smylers, On Aug 31, 2008, at 1:53 PM, Smylers wrote: > > Robert J Burns writes: > >> On Aug 30, 2008, at 11:01 PM, Lachlan Hunt wrote: >> >>> Julian Reschke wrote: >> >>>> there are at least two ways to avoid the problem: ... 2) Keep >>>> introducing new void elements, but always allow non-void notation, >>>> such as <eventsource source="foo"></eventsource> >>> >>> <eventsource src="foo"/> is allowed. Isn't that sufficient? >> >> As part of a serialized document that needs to be processed by a UA >> that does not know what an eventsource element is, it is not >> sufficient. ... These transitional problems are due to deficiencies >> in >> the text/html serialization of HTML (... unable to syntactically >> self-differentiate void from non-void elements like XML can with the >> <tagname /> syntax). > > Surely "the <tagname /> syntax" is exactly what Lachlan used above? Yes, Lachlan used that. However, it doesn't imply anything in a document transformed to a text/html serialization of HTML5. In XML <tagname /> means an element opened and closed. In text/html <tagname / > just means an element opened. When dealing with a DOM structure with unknown elements, the serializer can output empty elements as <tagname /><nextelement>contents</nextelement> or <tagname></ tagname><nextelement>contents</nextelement> , but when deserialized from text/html, that's the equivalent of: html ... ⋮ tagname nextelement #text: contents or html ... ⋮ tagname nextelement #text: contents depending on which syntax is used (unless we stop insisting on the solidus being a talisman). However, at least for some legacy UA support, Julians approach improves things. For example using <evensource></eventsource> in Opera, WebKit and Gecko will at least not lead the nextelement to be inside the eventsource element. However, in Gecko any unknown element would still implicitly close the paragraph element (is on is on the list of open elements). Take care, Rob
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