- From: Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com>
- Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:39:44 +0200
- To: "Richard Schwerdtfeger" <schwer@us.ibm.com>, unagi69@concentric.net
- Cc: "XHTML 2 WG" <public-xhtml2@w3.org>, Xtech <wai-xtech@w3.org>, "HTML WG" <public-html@w3.org>
Hi Rich,
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 18:26:00 +0200, Richard Schwerdtfeger
<schwer@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> If it were publicly available (HTML, XHTML, SVG) we could potentially
> have 100 people on the call. As it was it was a challenge to minute
> this. I do not want to manage a call of that size and we need to get
> things moving forward.
While I appreaciate the issue if 100 people *do* turn up, I think that it
is counter to the agreement under which the public groups work to set up a
private meeting with your chosen set of participants.
There is a precedent for each group selecting people to represent it (e.g.
Forms task force) which is much more in line with W3C process. It can take
a little longer to set up, but it should resolve problems like half a
group feeling they are unrepresented and then having to decide whether
there is some material impact (apart from a round of emails from "Outraged
of Oslo" and "Misrepresented of Mississippi" pointing out that they
*could* have been unrepresented).
Perhaps it is a better idea to get the groups to formally appoint a task
force where relevant. It certainly reduces the opportunities to accuse you
of doing it with some bias or other.
> The people involved were leaders trying to adopt aria in html,
> svg, and xhtml.
The people chosen were *some of* the leaders in adopting ARIA, I think.
Possibly a very representative sample, even. But there is a difference.
> I felt it would be more productive to get the leaders to agree on some
> proposals and then take them back to their respective groups for
> discussion. I have posted the minutes on the xhtml 2, html, and pf lists.
When working outside W3C process like this, I am very glad that you took
minutes and posted them to the relevant groups. That's vastly superior to
just editing a spec in such a way that the group does not know where the
change came from or why.
So thank you for doing that.
cheers
Chaals (aka "Get 2 cents in of Getafe")
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