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Re: Paving Cowpaths

From: Denis Boudreau (WebConforme) <dboudreau@webconforme.com>
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 14:16:16 -0400
To: HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>
Message-id: <8C1F97BB-88A8-4A21-9B1D-CA6BD8DAE548@webconforme.com>

Hi there,

> I am asked to review other organizations' web sites on an almost  
> weekly basis, and if I had a dollar for every time I saw this exact  
> configuration:
> <body leftmargin="0" topmargin="0" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0">
> I'd be spending my vacation in Montreal.

That's too bad, you'd love it. Montreal is a beautiful city. ;)

> I'm sure it's not just the public sector, so this must be a fairly  
> common usage.  Should it be written into the HTML 5 spec?  My vote  
> would be no.  After years of nudging the reluctant to separate  
> presentational information from the actual content, along come  
> authoring tools and CMSs that apparently are not with the program.   
> All it takes is one misinformed programmer working for a tool  
> vendor and voila -- instant cowpath.

I agree. This is the exact same point made by John Folliot earlier.  
It's not because people do something that it's necessarily good or  
worth building a spec around. There is some sort of simplification of  
ideas in this debate that is quite disturbing. I guess my criticism  
is as good as any when it comes to being against instant cowpaths.

Denis Boudreau,

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