Re: [W3C docs] We should teach by example.

On Fri, 2007-07-06 at 21:31 +0200, gonchuki wrote:
> On 7/6/07, Dan Connolly <> wrote:
> > On Fri, 2007-07-06 at 19:25 +0200, gonchuki wrote:
> > > On 7/6/07, Dan Connolly <> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm intrigued by the claim that source formatting contributes
> > > > to accessibility. I'm not at all persuaded; I would have to
> > > > see considerably more evidence.
> >
> > > what I mean with accessibility on this issue is that we must ensure
> > > that the source code is viewable and understandable to any disabled
> > > person, be it that she has low vision or focus/attention disorders.
> >
> > You made that claim before. Repeating it doesn't make it any more true
> > or convincing. If you have evidence or justification to back it,
> > please share it. Otherwise this is just a matter of personal preference,
> > i.e. editorial judgement. You're welcome to share such advice, but
> > the editors are under no obligation to do anything with it.
> >
> > "must" is a strong word; don't just throw it around lightly.
> >
> > --
> > Dan Connolly, W3C
> >
> >
> I'm sorry but i'm not repeating myself,

Perhaps the words are different, but the claims look very similar.

>  as for your questions and
> others it was apparent that you were thinking on accessibility through
> a User Agent and not via direct editing of the source.

As far as I know, you're not editing the source; you're reading
the source. If you prefer a particular line
breaking convention, I'm confident you can find tools to present
the source using those conventions.

>  I see it
> perfectly justified to ask for human readable source code being that
> HTML is supposed to be able to be generated by any person.

Supposed by whom? If you have a source for that premise, please cite it.
Otherwise, it is yet another opinion of yours.

And the connection is tenuous at best; even if we stipulate that
HTML should be simple enough that a large community of authors should
be able to produce it, that doesn't mean that every HTML document
should be produced by hand, or even that every _good_ HTML document
should be produced by hand, or even that every good HTML document
should be formatted for easy editing by hand.

> "must" is a strong word yes, as strong as our commitment  for equal
> accessibility for everyone, and I guess we as a group don't think that
> accessibility is just "a matter of personal preference".

You have yet to establish that the formatting of the source has
any beneficial impact on accessibility.

Dan Connolly, W3C

Received on Friday, 6 July 2007 20:08:18 UTC