- From: Ben 'Cerbera' Millard <cerbera@projectcerbera.com>
- Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 03:54:52 -0000
- To: "Sam Ruby" <rubys@us.ibm.com>
- Cc: "HTMLWG" <public-html@w3.org>
Sam Ruby wrote: > It might be worth reviewing the changes I made (had to make?) as these may > surface use cases that the specification may wish to cater to (or not). > [...] > I do think all this needs to be rethought if there is a desire for people > to adopt html5 and produce conformant content. Just for fun, I a ran a recent page from my blog through the HTML5 mode of the conformance checker: <http://validator.nu/?doc=http%3A%2F%2Fprojectcerbera.com%2Fblog%2F2007%2F12&parser=html5> Overall, I am happy with the results. But there are two messages which I am unhappy with. I think Sam has a point that some of the restrictions in HTML5 are unhelpful. [[[ Error: Element acronym not allowed as child of element li in this context. ]]] <acronym title> seems fine to me. * UAs already support <acronym title>. * Replacing every <acronym title> on the web with <abbr title> would probably cost a lot of money. * It doesn't improve the user experience. * The lacking support for <abbr title> in IE6 would harm the user experience, although by a gradually diminishing amount. [[[ Error: Element u not allowed as child of element samp in this context. ]]] <samp><u> seems fine to me. * UAs already support <samp><u>. * Replacing <samp><u> with <samp><span class> or with <samp><font style> does not improve the markup, afaict. * The additional filesize slightly reduces the efficiency and readability of the markup. * Making underline possible only with CSS prevents useful styling being available if the author stylesheet is not used. I propose: * Allow <acronym title>. * Allow <samp><u>. * Allow <acronym> without title. Maybe it can help pronounciation in text-to-speech software? I'm unaware of anything currently doing that, though. * Allow <u> anywhere similar elements are allowed (such as <i> and <b>). Underlined text may be useful in other situations. -- Ben 'Cerbera' Millard Collections of Interesting Data Tables <http://sitesurgeon.co.uk/tables/>
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