- From: John Foliot <foliot@wats.ca>
- Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:14:16 -0700
- To: "'Dan Connolly'" <connolly@w3.org>
- Cc: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>, <wai-xtech@w3.org>, <whatwg@whatwg.org>, <public-html@w3.org>
Dan Connolly wrote: > > I sympathize with your frustration, but I ask that you remain patient. Dan, Thank you for your prompt response. While patience is indeed a virtue, my (our?) patience is being sorely tested, as while the official word is that we're nowhere near deciding anything, current editors and contributors are going ahead and making "pronouncements" that lead many to believe that much of HTML5 is 'fait accomplis'. As someone once said to me, you can't suck and blow at the same time. To whit: * Is Anne ("Standards Suck") van Kesteren out of place to be announcing that HTML5 has dropped <input usemap>? [http://annevankesteren.nl/2007/08/input-usemap] * Is Lachlan Hunt definitive when stating, "HTML5 now defines the usemap attribute as a Hashed ID Reference, not a URI, and can only reference maps within the same document." [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189643], as well as "HTML5 currently will not be including the usemap attribute on input elements." [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=392994] * Is From Maciej Stachowiak correct when he states, "This feature is underspecified in HTML4, and not implemented by IE. It is also likely to be dropped in HTML5 and may be removed from Mozilla and Opera as a result." [http://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15032] These types of pronouncements *do* tend to send mixed messages, don't you agree? If these authors/HTML 5 contributors can be categorically making these kinds of statements, then is it not unreasonable to expect something like, "Based upon current feedback, the headers attribute will be preserved in HTML5" (attribute to whom you wish)? I know that these issues have been raised to you previously. If we are to accept that it is still at the "...*no* design decisions made..." stage then is it unreasonable for "us" to expect that these types of statements/pronouncements cease from the editors? Else, there will continue to be a perception of "what you say vs. what you do" that outsiders will continue to question (and continue to revisit - Lachlan's initial complaint). Respectfully, JF
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