- From: Alexander Graf <alexander.graf@deri.org>
- Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 17:12:55 +0200
- To: Shane Thacker <shanethacker@gmail.com>
- Cc: public-html@w3.org
- Message-Id: <A96E0AA4-E272-4FDB-8180-C486441FC8DA@deri.org>
> Anyway, I think the aim of this process shouldn't be to add extra > top-level presentational elements to muddy the waters further. It may > have already been mentioned in this thread, and if so I apologize, but > why not use something we already have used: attributes? <indent> might > add an extra element, but <p align="indent">, or however would be best > to say it, simply adds a presentational suggestion to <p>, a concept > that has been in HTML for a long time. I don't think this would work. First, as you said, people have used <blockquote> for quite some time to indent text. They also have used nested <blockquote>s to increase indentation. How would that work using attributes? I think it would confuse users even more. I'm a big supporter of semantics in HTML. That said, I think that it should be at least partly the responsibility of this working group to further push semantics in HTML and deprecate elements that only have presentational value. There are currently more than enough possibilities to indent elements via CSS and I honestly don't see the need to add properties or elements to HTML which do the same. As it is, web developers will have to learn (a little bit of) CSS anyway, to produce even just slightly good looking websites. We can: - give people a bit of semantical and a bit of presentational control in HTML and let them figure out the more advanced presentational styles in CSS, confusing them even more (what property takes precedence, etc...) - or drop the support for presentational stuff altogether. People who use tables and don't care for the semantics in HTML (teachers who want to put timetables online, ... as Anne pointed out) can *still* use <blockquote> to indent text and those who care for a structured document will be able to use <blockquote> in its semantically correct meaning and style indented text with CSS. Best, -- Alexander Graf DERI Innsbruck Digital Enterprise Research Institute Leopold-Franzens-Universität ICT Technologiepark, Technikerstrasse 21a 6020 Innsbruck, Austria mail: alexander.graf@deri.org fon: +43 512 507 96880 mobile: +43 660 7642043 web: www.deri.at
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