- From: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
- Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 18:47:03 +0200
- To: David Singer <singer@apple.com>
- Cc: HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
David Singer, Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:06:15 -0700: > I'm not usually one to raise points of grammar, spelling, or > semantics, but since it's come up twice on the same thread on the > same day, I think it's worth pointing out that > > "begging the question" > > does NOT mean "raising the question" but means "assuming the answer > in the question" <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question> Wikipedia says: ]]More recently, "to beg the question" has been used as a synonym for "to raise the question":[[ Swedish Wikipedia says - in my translation (http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petitio_principii): ]] A Petitio principii is usually a request. A petitio principii is a proof which is logically valid, since the conclusion follows the premisses, but which is not a binding proof since the truth of the premises is not known. It is even called (in Greek) en 'archei aiteisthai' and [in English] 'begging the question', the latter since it is used in connections where someone asks that the premise should be investigated. [[ As for my own use of this phrase: > Charles McCathieNevile, Fri, 13 Aug 2010 06:15:13 +0800: > >> It may be the case that a future version of > ARIA can change this. However, this boils down to having exactly the > same attribute, with a new name, available on more elements, in some > unspecified future when ARIA 2 is ready. > > Well pointed out. > > Which begs the question: why not rather put @longdesc directly into > ARIA, and just globalize @longdesc, as a native attribute - to all - > relevant - elements in HTML5? If what Charles said is true, namely that a ARIA solution simply involves recreating @longdesc with a new name in ARIA, then we can just as well use @longdesc directly. I believe Charles is right, but it should be investigated. I am not convinced that the modern usage is all that different from the old usage. -- leif halvard silli
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