- From: John Boyer <boyerj@ca.ibm.com>
- Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 14:53:22 -0700
- To: public-forms@w3.org
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Regrets so far: None Start Time: 10:45am Eastern US (15:45Z, except 14:45Z during US DST) Duration: 90 minutes Previous minutes: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Apr/0020.html IRC supplement: http://www.w3.org/2009/04/29-forms-minutes.html Minute takers rotation list, when not done by Leigh: Steven, Erik, Nick, MarkB/Paul, Ulrich/Sebastian, Charlie Kenneth/MarkS?, Raman?, Susan?, Rafael/Rogelio? AGENDA ITEMS: ============= * = be ready to discuss + = discuss time permitting Reports, Etc. ------------- * XForms 1.1 - Implementation report progress/completion tasks (below) - Issue classification (below) Upcoming telecons * Next FtF - Agenda development exercise The Forms Newsletter/News items XForms Basic 1.0, 1.1 Rich Web Application Backplane Action Items ------------ * Action Item List: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Mar/0052.html - Update needed Administrative Issues --------------------- XSLTForms to list of implementations http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2009Apr/0002.html Fix our shortname issue http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Nov/0096.html http://www.w3.org/2005/05/tr-versions W3C Spec matrix http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Nov/0071.html - Discussed on Nov. 26, 2008 PROGRESS ON WORKING GROUP GOALS =============================== * Issue Classification ---------------------- - When to use resource attribute http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Mar/0028.html http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2009Mar/0000.html * XForms 1.1 Completion ----------------------- * Issues - - - - Proposal to remove test of mailto with multipart-post http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009May/0001.html Proposed test revision for xforms-model-destruct http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009May/0002.html Updating FF Plugin report for 8.1.6.b http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Apr/0023.html Action items on group members? * Test suite changes - - - - - - - - - - - Modifications from action items on various group members Defer non-essential modifications - Non-XHTML in test suite http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Apr/0011.html - What are the remaining obstacles to XForms 1.1 advancement? 8.1.10.a selection attribute on select (have one, need one) 11.1.v includenamespaceprefixes attr on submission (have one, need one) 11.9.4.b delete submission deletes a file (have none, need one) Advancing XForms for HTML ------------------------- - Assertions - Examples - Test Suite - Rationalization of XForms for HTML, RDFa, and ARIA http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Mar/0044.html * XForms 1.2 Features --------------------- Need to discuss from standpoint of recharter Need to discuss statement of requirements Need to prioritize features into versions - Context everywhere, context on bind - Data driven switch - case() - Better expression of default trigger - submissions that put and get binary resources - setting submission method default to "get" http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Feb/0065.html - Ability to suppress RRRR on submission completion http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Mar/0007.html - Lazy authoring improvement: empty instance exists even if no refs - repeat and relevance/enabled/disabled http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2009Mar/0007.html Review Possibilities JSON submissions? submission to a "new" window? mediatype="text/html" on textarea for rich text content? XML Events 2? Dialogs? Model improvements (optional, nested, external/src, exceptions)? UI event notification improvements? Create node action? See older issues below? Analyzing Modularization for AJAX Programmers --------------------------------------------- Modularization of XForms based on markup seemed at one point a necessary step of decoupling modules against which APIs could be written. However, the working group now wants to approach the problem by starting with the needed APIs and letting the modularization requirements follow. XForms 2.0 ---------- Refactor dependencies to detect automatic rebuild conditions and reduce circular dependencies http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008May/att-0069/2008-05-28.html#topic6 Review possibilities Older issues ------------ Currency data values, etc. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Sep/0041.html http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Sep/0043.html Validity notification on initial or hidden data http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2008May/0015.html - Isn't it about time we add an xforms-control-initialize event? - Seems we need it for modularization to work right - Defer to face to face meeting The xforms-link-exception http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2008Aug/0001.html Discussed Aug. 20, 2008. Need to dispatch xforms-link-error to instance rather than link-exception to model. For legacy, if the link-error bubbles up to model, it could throw link-exception, but then the author can prevent the exception by cancelling the error Note: xforms-link-error is not currently cancellable http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2008Aug/0003.html xforms-submit-done response-body and host language submission result targeting http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008May/0048.html Discussed 21 May 2008; perhaps only for replace="none" Concern was about efficiency. Could add "want-response-body" default false in xforms-submit, then if turned true the response-body would be non-empty in the xforms-submit-done. Host language could then push response-body content to a new window. xforms-submit-serialize receives empty submission-body value http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Nov/0061.html Discussed 03 Dec 2008; decided to allow future version feature that helps control whether submission body is empty on start Context info of xforms-submit could provide a writable flag ============================================= [[Magic for irc channel: /invite zakim zakim, this will be forms /invite rrsagent rrsagent, make log public Meeting: Weekly Forms WG Teleconference Agenda: <url of this message> Chair: <whoever> Scribe: <whoever> (use exact IRC name, or add "scribenick: irc_name") Regrets: <name>, <name>, ... Topic: <topic 1> ... minutes ... Resolution: ... resolution ... Topic: <topic 2> ... ACTION: <someone> to <something> ... 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