TELECON AGENDA - 20 Aug 2008

Regrets so far: Rafael, Uli
Start Time: 10:45am Eastern US (15:45Z, except 14:45Z during US DST)
Duration: 90 minutes

Previous minutes: http://www.w3.org/2008/08/13-forms-minutes.html
IRC supplement: http://www.w3.org/2008/08/13-forms-minutes.html

Minute takers rotation list, when not done by Leigh:
Kenneth/MarkS, MarkB/Paul, Raman, Susan, Nick, Keith, 
Ulrich/Sebastian, Rafael/Rogelio, Charlie, Steven, Erik

AGENDA ITEMS:
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* = be ready to discuss

REPORTS (10 minutes)
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Upcoming telecons
- Summer availability questionnaire: 
http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/32219/formssummer08/

Next FtF (October 15-16 Virtual, Oct. 20-21 Cannes)
- Overview: http://www.w3.org/2008/10/TPAC/
- Registration: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2008/
- Schedule: http://www.w3.org/2008/10/TPAC/Schedule
- Need zakim booking from adminreq@w3.org by 10 October 2008

- Meetings needed? Spread-the-word activities?
webapps (m12n, js lib), HTML, CDF (mustUnderstand), XML Sec

* The Forms Newsletter

* XForms 1.1
- Editor to incorporate Appendix E Input Mode changes from Steven
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Aug/0052.html
- Submission headers fix?
- Event context fix?
- Test suite
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Aug/0054.html
- Implementation report progress?

XForms Basic 1.0, 1.1

Rich Web Application Backplane


ACTION ITEMS (10 minutes)
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Action Item List:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Aug/0028.html

- News item from Steven?
- Kenneth: XSD 1.1 review?
- John: must coordinate with HTML WG chairs about Forms Joint Task Force
- Steven: Sentence about XHTML Modularization?
- Keith: Action item list updates for test suite actions done?
- Leigh and Kenneth: 1.0 Basic impl report? 
- Nick: Need progress on Action module and Bind module
- Uli: Do you think you might be able to start the submission module?

BUG FIX ISSUES (30 minutes)
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* Common event info not exposed in event() function
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Aug/0048.html

* Submission header problem
- Duplicate headers same keyname more than one value. 
- How are multiple values handled?
- Serializer receives multiple values and decides what to do
- Put a pointer to http
- must order be preserved?
- intra convertible to single header with comma separated
- What if values themselves are comma separated?
- Beyond order, do we need a combiner for append versus replace
- Accept type?
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2008Aug/0000.html

* The xforms-link-exception
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2008Aug/0001.html

XBRL
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2008May/0011.html

The meaning of message
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0013.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0012.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0011.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0010.html

The repeat-* attributes
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2006OctDec/0232.html


ADMINISTRATIVE ISSUES (0 minutes)
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Forms Task Force
- Latest: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms-tf/2008Jun/0000.html
- Architecture alignment strawman: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0068.html

Fix our shortname issue
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Nov/0096.html
http://www.w3.org/2005/05/tr-versions

Marketing of XForms
Name/Tagline: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jan/0060.html
Community: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jan/0054.html


FUTURE VERSION ISSUES (50 minutes)
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* Draft Instance Data Module
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jul/0001.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jul/0008.html
- Need the split to be done soon
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Aug/0021.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Aug/0055.html

* Review of XPath Functions Module
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.2/modules/instance/xpathFunctions/index-all.html
- Review new organization before splitting
- Issues in 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Aug/0023.html

* Actions module, XML Events 2, if/while/event()
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Aug/0036.html

* Review of Actions module
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.2/modules/instance/actions/index-all.html
- Reference to XHTML Modularization, and explanation of meaning of 
ampersand
- XML Events, if/while
- Examples are very dependent on things not defined

* Review of Bind Module
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.2/modules/model/bind/index-all.html

We should automate boolean-from-string() on the boolean MIPs (relevant, 
readonly, constraint)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jun/0069.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Feb/0077.html

Validity notification on initial or hidden data
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2008May/0015.html
- Isn't it about time we add an xforms-control-initialize event?
- Seems we need it for modularization to work right

The xforms-hide feature suggestion
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jun/0035.html


XForms 2.0
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Refactor dependencies to detect automatic rebuild conditions and reduce 
circular dependencies
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008May/att-0069/2008-05-28.html#topic6

Make progress on Model improvements (optional model, nested model, 
external model)
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/Make_model_optional
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/Nested_models_for_convenient_grouping_and_composition
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/Externally_defined_models_with_src_attribute

xforms-submit-done response-body and host language submission result 
targeting
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008May/0048.html
Discussed 21 May 2008; perhaps only for replace="none"

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