RE: subject indicators ... ?

Thanks Stella.

I agree, the name 'indicator' is a bit vague ... I originally suggested it
because of the parallel with the OASIS published subject indicator paradigm,
and in the additional hope of building a bit of overlap with topic-map
standards.  

I think 'authority' and 'source' are unfortunately a bit overloaded ... 

Some more ideas (brainstorming here): 'resolveTo' 'resolutionTarget'
'webPresence' 'webDescriptor' ... (still not discounting 'indicator') ???

Al.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stella Dextre Clarke [mailto:sdclarke@lukehouse.demon.co.uk]
> Sent: 07 October 2004 12:15
> To: 'Miles, AJ (Alistair) '; public-esw-thes@w3.org
> Subject: RE: subject indicators ... ?
> 
> 
> Just trying to catch up with this one. I guess such a 
> property could be
> useful. The purpose seems to be to point to the place where 
> you can find
> out the most authoritative information available about a concept. I
> begin to wonder whether the name should involve something 
> like "source"
> or "authority", although I don't have any objection to "indicator",
> except perhaps that it is vague. I can't point to any existing
> convention for what people tend to call this type of 
> property, since it
> is a fairly new way of doing things. I see it as perhaps a way of
> providing added value to the traditional thesaurus model, and 
> time will
> tell whether and how people find it useful. ( It's not easy trying to
> make up standards in advance of precedents!)
> Cheers
> Stella
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-esw-thes-request@w3.org
> [mailto:public-esw-thes-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Miles, AJ
> (Alistair) 
> Sent: 06 October 2004 14:22
> To: 'public-esw-thes@w3.org'
> Subject: FW: subject indicators ... ?
> 
> 
> 
> >AJM said:
> Also I wasn't talking about identifying concepts in relation 
> to *someone
> elses* indicators, although this would be a possibility [with the
> implication that (?x skos:indicator ?i) (?y skos:indicator ?i) -> (?x
> skos-map:exactMatch ?y)].
> 
> So I just realised that, if allowed to be used in this way, 
> of course a
> 'skos:indicator' type property *should not* be an IFP.
> 
> An alternative name has been suggested to me, something involving the
> word 'indicative' ... e.g. 'indicativeRepresentation'
> 'indicativeResource' ... just throwing ideas out, hoping to 
> work towards
> a name that reflects well the intended usage.
> 
> Al.
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> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: public-esw-thes-request@w3.org 
> > [mailto:public-esw-thes-request@w3.org]On Behalf Of Leonard Will
> > Sent: 05 October 2004 16:49
> > To: public-esw-thes@w3.org
> > Subject: Re: subject indicators ... ?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > In message
> > <350DC7048372D31197F200902773DF4C05E50C6E@exchange11.rl.ac.uk>
> >  on Tue, 5 
> > Oct 2004, "Miles, AJ (Alistair)" <A.J.Miles@rl.ac.uk> wrote
> > >The idea I had for a 'skos:indicator' property is that it
> > points to a
> > >web resource that consists of a *complete* description of
> > the concept.
> > >This should include labels, definitions, examples, etc.
> > where present.
> > 
> > I would think that the only place you would find a suitable
> > *complete* 
> > description would be within a knowledge organisation scheme 
> that had 
> > been compiled in accordance with the standards that you are 
> > using. Are 
> > you then just in the situation of borrowing elements from 
> > other KOSs - 
> > i.e. merging or mapping?
> > 
> > >Such a 'skos:indicator' property would also provide an
> > alternative to
> > >resolvable URIs for concepts ... i.e. you can have a concept with a
> > >non-resolvable URI, and if you are looking for a complete 
> > >(content-negotiable) description of that concept, you look up the 
> > >'indicator'.
> > 
> > What could an "indicator" be if it pointed to a web resource
> > but was not 
> > a URI? I thought that a URI was a general name for something that 
> > pointed to a web resource.
> > 
> > I'm not sure what you mean by "content-negotiable".
> > 
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