Re: dwbp-ISSUE-214: prov:Agent vs duv:Agent [Data Usage Vocabulary]

João Paulo,

Thank you for the guidance on foaf:Project.  Because digitally cited
sources can and do mention projects, I'm reluctant to exclude it, unless
the definition of prov:Organization broad enough to support what we need.
It is a form of an organization, just more temporal in nature.  Another way
to look at it perhaps is making duv:Project as a subclass of
prov:Organization to meet these needs.

What do you suggest?

Eric

Eric

On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 5:23 AM, João Paulo Almeida <jpalmeida@ieee.org>
wrote:

> Hi Eric,
>
> I would exclude foaf:Project altogether.  It is still in status “testing”
> in foaf, and it’s not particularly relevant for data usage to make that
> distinction. So, I’d just exclude foaf:Project from the scope and use
> prov:Agent.
>
> There is a separate issue of whether we need to create duv:Agent. I’d say
> we DO NOT need to create duv:Agent, because we only use prov:Agent as range
> of properties in the DUV. (And prov:Agent is general enough and established
> in a well-defined W3C recommendation, and by the way it is equivalent to
> dct:Agent, see http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/NOTE-prov-dc-20130430/ .)
>
> By the way, the diagram in the current DUV version includes prov:Agent
> twice. This should be fixed for clarity.
>
> Regards,
> João Paulo
>
>
> From: Eric Stephan <ericphb@gmail.com>
> Date: Friday, November 20, 2015 at 11:06 AM
> To: João Paulo Almeida <jpalmeida@ieee.org>
> Cc: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org>
> Subject: Re: dwbp-ISSUE-214: prov:Agent vs duv:Agent [Data Usage
> Vocabulary]
>
> João Paulo,
>
> Thank you for your question.  You are correct that foaf:Project is not a
> prov:Agent in the vocabulary.  In citations an Agent to include project,
> organization, or person can designated as the publisher, distributor, or
> producer.  My question is because prov:Agent does not specify foaf:Project
> as an agent, should I use prov:Agent or should I create duv:Agent (that I
> guess could be a subclass of prov:Agent?)
>
> What do you think?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Eric
>
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 4:56 AM, João Paulo Almeida <jpalmeida@ieee.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Eric,
>>
>> Would you please clarify the issue?
>>
>> As far as I am aware, foaf:Project is not a subclass of prov:Agent.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> João Paulo
>>
>>
>> On 20/11/15, 9:40 AM, "Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Issue
>> Tracker" <sysbot+tracker@w3.org> wrote:
>>
>> >dwbp-ISSUE-214: prov:Agent vs duv:Agent [Data Usage Vocabulary]
>> >
>> >http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/214
>> >
>> >Raised by: Eric Stephan
>> >On product: Data Usage Vocabulary
>> >
>> >Data vocabulary reuse question: In the citation model, is it better to
>> >use prov:Agent that is a superclass to new classes such as foaf:Project
>> >or should we create a new class duv:Agent?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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