- From: Bernadette Farias Lóscio <bfl@cin.ufpe.br>
- Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 10:07:13 -0300
- To: Christophe Guéret <christophe.gueret@dans.knaw.nl>
- Cc: Makx Dekkers <mail@makxdekkers.com>, Ghislain Atemezing <auguste.atemezing@eurecom.fr>, "public-dwbp-wg@w3.org" <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CANx1PzxZHpQPEMUxFEaXfp06jtP=c8p9B6t08rZCMVb8uSwpsw@mail.gmail.com>
Hi all, @Christophe, that's sounds really good! Considering the examples that Makx gave about granularity, do you think we will need different requirements and BP for collections of resources (ex: datasets and ontology) and individual resources (ex: concepts of an ontology)? In this case, a resource may denote an individual item or a collection of resources. Does it make sense for you? thanks, Bernadette 2014-11-28 9:45 GMT-03:00 Christophe Guéret <christophe.gueret@dans.knaw.nl> : > +1 to Bernadette too. > > In fact, we can argue that a resource can be anything from a thing > (dataset, data point, city, ...), to an HTML representation of the > description of a thing to a CSV serialisation of a dataset. > It is merely an identifier for something that can be described in a > structured way. The issue is that the description can change over time > whereas the identifier itself should remain stable but we can probably fix > that with giving specific time-based identifiers to resources and relate > them with the time independent identifier of the resources. > > Christophe > > > On 28 November 2014 at 13:40, Makx Dekkers <mail@makxdekkers.com> wrote: > >> Bernadette, >> >> >> >> Good point. In fact, an ontology is a type of dataset. >> >> >> >> Makx. >> >> >> >> *From:* Bernadette Farias Lóscio [mailto:bfl@cin.ufpe.br] >> *Sent:* Friday, November 28, 2014 1:24 PM >> *To:* Christophe Guéret >> *Cc:* Ghislain Atemezing; public-dwbp-wg@w3.org >> *Subject:* Re: ISSUE-69: Do we include versioning in the bp doc? >> currently there are no use cases for it >> >> >> >> Hello Christophe, >> >> >> >> I think it's gonna be easier if we don't make this difference. Then, in >> this case, we need to make clear that a resource may denote a dataset or a >> vocabulary. Do you agree? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Bernadette >> >> >> >> 2014-11-28 9:11 GMT-03:00 Christophe Guéret < >> christophe.gueret@dans.knaw.nl>: >> >> Hoi, >> >> Do we really need to make the difference between data/metadata and >> datasets/vocabularies to speak about versioning ? >> >> IMHO it would be best to just focus on versioning resource identifiers. >> Then a requirement on the design of identifiers to ensure they are >> version-proof would be sufficient. >> >> Christophe >> >> >> >> On 28 November 2014 at 13:00, Bernadette Farias Lóscio <bfl@cin.ufpe.br> >> wrote: >> >> Hello Ghislain, >> >> >> >> Thanks for adding one more use case and also for this dicussion about >> versioning! >> >> >> >> In my opinion, versioning metadata should be provided both for datasets >> and vocabularies (ontologies). In the same way, it is important to have >> best practices for URI design that helps to deal with these different >> versions. >> >> >> >> However, it is not clear for me if the new requirement *R-VersionURIDesign*: >> “Data should have a canonical way to design URIs for different snapshot of >> the dataset.” concerns versions of both (datasets and vocabularies). >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> Bernadette >> >> >> >> 2014-11-27 11:18 GMT-03:00 Ghislain Atemezing < >> auguste.atemezing@eurecom.fr>: >> >> >> >> Dear Data-web-lovers, >> [ My 2 cents to solve this issue... ] >> >> ISSUE-69: Do we include versioning in the bp doc? currently there are no >> use cases for it >> >> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/69 >> >> I guess with the second round of UCs [1], we clearly identify that >> COMSODE's UC falls into versioning issue [2]. >> >> I've just added a new UC regarding BBC's ontologies, available here [3]. >> I was looking for a requirement dealing with designing URIs and versioning, >> to (maybe) make use of the COMURI document. >> >> I've also proposed a new requirement *R-VersionURIDesign*?: “Data should >> have a canonical way to design URIs for different snapshot of the dataset.” >> >> Maybe I didn't check enough the document to find overlaps with existing >> requirements. If so, please thanks for pointing the right requirement. >> >> I hope these UCs will motivate the presence of including versioning in >> the bp document. >> >> Best, >> Ghislain >> >> [1] https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Second-Round_Use_Cases >> [2] >> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Second-Round_Use_Cases#Dataset_versioning_and_dataset_replication >> [3] >> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Second-Round_Use_Cases#BBC_ontology_versioning_and_Metadata >> >> >> -- >> Ghislain Atemezing >> EURECOM, Multimedia Communications Department >> Campus SophiaTech >> 450, route des Chappes, 06410 Biot, France. >> e-mail: auguste.atemezing@eurecom.fr & ghislain.atemezing@gmail.com >> Tel: +33 (0)4 - 9300 8178 >> Fax: +33 (0)4 - 9000 8200 >> Web: http://www.eurecom.fr/~atemezin >> Google+:http://google.com/+GhislainATEMEZING >> Twitter:@gatemezing >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Bernadette Farias Lóscio >> Centro de Informática >> Universidade Federal de Pernambuco - UFPE, Brazil >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Onderzoeker >> +31(0)6 14576494 >> christophe.gueret@dans.knaw.nl >> >> >> >> *Data Archiving and Networked Services (DANS)* >> >> DANS bevordert duurzame toegang tot digitale onderzoeksgegevens. 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DANS is een instituut van KNAW en > NWO. > > > Let op, per 1 januari hebben we een nieuw adres: > > DANS | Anna van Saksenlaan 51 | 2593 HW Den Haag | Postbus 93067 | 2509 AB > Den Haag | +31 70 349 44 50 | info@dans.knaw.nl <info@dans.kn> | > www.dans.knaw.nl > > > *Let's build a World Wide Semantic Web!* > http://worldwidesemanticweb.org/ > > *e-Humanities Group (KNAW)* > [image: eHumanities] <http://www.ehumanities.nl/> > -- Bernadette Farias Lóscio Centro de Informática Universidade Federal de Pernambuco - UFPE, Brazil ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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