- From: Christophe Guéret <christophe.gueret@dans.knaw.nl>
- Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 13:45:37 +0100
- To: Makx Dekkers <mail@makxdekkers.com>
- CC: Bernadette Farias Lóscio <bfl@cin.ufpe.br>, Christophe Gueret <christophe.gueret@dans.knaw.nl>, Ghislain Atemezing <auguste.atemezing@eurecom.fr>, "public-dwbp-wg@w3.org" <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org>
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+1 to Bernadette too. In fact, we can argue that a resource can be anything from a thing (dataset, data point, city, ...), to an HTML representation of the description of a thing to a CSV serialisation of a dataset. It is merely an identifier for something that can be described in a structured way. The issue is that the description can change over time whereas the identifier itself should remain stable but we can probably fix that with giving specific time-based identifiers to resources and relate them with the time independent identifier of the resources. Christophe On 28 November 2014 at 13:40, Makx Dekkers <mail@makxdekkers.com> wrote: > Bernadette, > > > > Good point. In fact, an ontology is a type of dataset. > > > > Makx. > > > > *From:* Bernadette Farias Lóscio [mailto:bfl@cin.ufpe.br] > *Sent:* Friday, November 28, 2014 1:24 PM > *To:* Christophe Guéret > *Cc:* Ghislain Atemezing; public-dwbp-wg@w3.org > *Subject:* Re: ISSUE-69: Do we include versioning in the bp doc? > currently there are no use cases for it > > > > Hello Christophe, > > > > I think it's gonna be easier if we don't make this difference. Then, in > this case, we need to make clear that a resource may denote a dataset or a > vocabulary. Do you agree? > > > > Thanks, > > Bernadette > > > > 2014-11-28 9:11 GMT-03:00 Christophe Guéret < > christophe.gueret@dans.knaw.nl>: > > Hoi, > > Do we really need to make the difference between data/metadata and > datasets/vocabularies to speak about versioning ? > > IMHO it would be best to just focus on versioning resource identifiers. > Then a requirement on the design of identifiers to ensure they are > version-proof would be sufficient. > > Christophe > > > > On 28 November 2014 at 13:00, Bernadette Farias Lóscio <bfl@cin.ufpe.br> > wrote: > > Hello Ghislain, > > > > Thanks for adding one more use case and also for this dicussion about > versioning! > > > > In my opinion, versioning metadata should be provided both for datasets > and vocabularies (ontologies). In the same way, it is important to have > best practices for URI design that helps to deal with these different > versions. > > > > However, it is not clear for me if the new requirement *R-VersionURIDesign*: > “Data should have a canonical way to design URIs for different snapshot of > the dataset.” concerns versions of both (datasets and vocabularies). > > > > Thanks! > > Bernadette > > > > 2014-11-27 11:18 GMT-03:00 Ghislain Atemezing < > auguste.atemezing@eurecom.fr>: > > > > Dear Data-web-lovers, > [ My 2 cents to solve this issue... ] > > ISSUE-69: Do we include versioning in the bp doc? currently there are no > use cases for it > > http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/69 > > I guess with the second round of UCs [1], we clearly identify that > COMSODE's UC falls into versioning issue [2]. > > I've just added a new UC regarding BBC's ontologies, available here [3]. I > was looking for a requirement dealing with designing URIs and versioning, > to (maybe) make use of the COMURI document. > > I've also proposed a new requirement *R-VersionURIDesign*?: “Data should > have a canonical way to design URIs for different snapshot of the dataset.” > > Maybe I didn't check enough the document to find overlaps with existing > requirements. If so, please thanks for pointing the right requirement. > > I hope these UCs will motivate the presence of including versioning in the > bp document. > > Best, > Ghislain > > [1] https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Second-Round_Use_Cases > [2] > https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Second-Round_Use_Cases#Dataset_versioning_and_dataset_replication > [3] > https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Second-Round_Use_Cases#BBC_ontology_versioning_and_Metadata > > > -- > Ghislain Atemezing > EURECOM, Multimedia Communications Department > Campus SophiaTech > 450, route des Chappes, 06410 Biot, France. > e-mail: auguste.atemezing@eurecom.fr & ghislain.atemezing@gmail.com > Tel: +33 (0)4 - 9300 8178 > Fax: +33 (0)4 - 9000 8200 > Web: http://www.eurecom.fr/~atemezin > Google+:http://google.com/+GhislainATEMEZING > Twitter:@gatemezing > > > > > > -- > > Bernadette Farias Lóscio > Centro de Informática > Universidade Federal de Pernambuco - UFPE, Brazil > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > -- > > Onderzoeker > +31(0)6 14576494 > christophe.gueret@dans.knaw.nl > > > > *Data Archiving and Networked Services (DANS)* > > DANS bevordert duurzame toegang tot digitale onderzoeksgegevens. 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