- From: Laufer <laufer@globo.com>
- Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 15:26:59 -0300
- To: Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>
- Cc: DWBP WG <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CA+pXJij7UQ3r4nu-0Ok8Es=q=Vogg4x--Kis4kLMGhwrBtsbFQ@mail.gmail.com>
Hi, Antoine, Thank you for your comments. Best, Laufer 2014-05-30 6:18 GMT-03:00 Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>: > Hi Laufer, > > This 'meta-meta' level is not out-of-scope. In fact it's precisely what is > identified in the requirements. And the vocabularies (especially the > quality and granularity one) are precisely about this. By creating a > vocabulary, we aim to promote its usage, assuming that this will result in > higher-quality metadata (a voc like Q&G will be used to create metadata of > course). > > So yes a lot of what you describe makes sense: it would be useful to focus > on the quality of metadata, next to the current 'star schemes' that rather > focus now on the technical way the data is published. This echoes with what > others in the LOD community are also proposing either at the metadata > quality level [1, 2] or the legal one [3]. (I guess the ODI also has > several things like this). > > What worries me is the potential overlap with other streams of work in the > WG. Your 'metadata' includes many things, including licenses and provenance > (and I agree with it, see my comments on the UC document [4]) > I expect "quality/metrics" to be handled by the Q&G voc. 'License' may > also happen as a separate line of work, if the requirements become stronger > than expected (as discussed at [5]) > It's perhaps good to have some general discussion on this before we all > dive further in our own areas... > > > Meanwhile, I'm going to add a couple of pointers to the wiki: but that's > just starting points to investigate further. In fact on provenance I have > already sent something on the list [6]. Is it relevant for you? > > Best, > > Antoine > > [1] http://www.seco.tkk.fi/publications/submitted/ > hyvonen-et-al-ldf-2014.pdf > [2] http://bvatant.blogspot.fr/2012/02/is-your-linked-data- > vocabulary-5-star_9588.html > [3] http://lod-lam.net/summit/2011/06/06/proposed-a-4-star- > classification-scheme-for-linked-open-cultural-metadata/ > [4] comment 7, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2014May/ > 0115.html > [5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2014May/0031.html > [6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2014May/0027.html > > > On 5/29/14 3:55 PM, Laufer wrote: > >> Dear All, >> >> In our last teleconference, I commented about the idea of metadata >> quality. I know it may sound like something meta-meta but I will try to >> better explain what I am thinking. >> >> As we can see from the use cases we have collected, there are a lot of >> different ways in which people are publishing data on the web. It seems >> that we have a North in the linked data idea but many of the use cases in >> our list are still collections of files published in data portals. >> >> In these portals we have data and metadata. The 5 stars open data scale >> makes, in some sense, people think that data that have 5 stars are better >> described than data with, for example, 3 stars. I don’t think that this is >> necessarily true. Some of these data portals have a kind of best practices >> that ask users to publish metadata together with data, and suggest, or >> require, metadata content. Some portals have a fixed set of fields that >> must be provided by the user. They are mandatory. So, one dataset with 3 >> stars could have a metadata set that helps a developer in a better way than >> another one with 5 stars. The 5 stars don’t guarantee the metadata quality. >> The metadata quality scale is not the same as the 5 stars open data scale. >> I am not proposing to have a metadata quality scale. But I think it exists. >> >> In the Guidance on The Provision of Metadata < >> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Guidance_on_the_Provision_of_Metadata> >> page I listed a set of metadata types that is already being investigated by >> diverse groups and could help to enhance the metadata quality of a dataset. >> For each one of the metadata types we could give pointers to the groups >> that are working in that specific topic and some examples using our use >> cases. Some of these metadata types, related to data quality and data >> usage, for example, are in the scope of our group. In my opinion, it is out >> of the scope of our group to formally define each one of these metadata >> types. Each one of them deserves an individual WG taking care of it. And >> many already have these groups. >> >> >> As I asked in the last teleconference, I would appreciate that DWBP WG >> participants, which have information about initiatives working in each >> metadata type, could put content and links in the wiki page, in a way that >> other participants could study and put more detailed information about >> these works, with comments and examples. >> >> I think this could be a good guide for users, to help them to publish >> data, to choose data publishing tools, data portals, and also helping the >> developers of the data publishing tools to include ways of enhancing the >> metadata quality of datasets. >> >> As Bernadette pointed in her article, we have a set of different roles in >> the Data on the Web ecosystem. People with different roles may benefit from >> our guide, each one doing his part to enhance the overall ease and >> efficiency of the ecosystem usage and the effects over society. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Laufer >> >> >> -- >> . . . .. . . >> . . . .. >> . .. . >> > > -- . . . .. . . . . . .. . .. .
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