Re: Call for comments on open questions about the audience for the DWBP doc

Thanks for the messages about the document audience.

I agree with Bernadette (+1) about Q2. And agree also with Eric for other
questions.

Regards,
Adriano.


Adriano C. Machado Pereira.

On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Bernadette Farias Lóscio <bfl@cin.ufpe.br>
wrote:
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> Hello Annette and Makx,
>
> Thanks again for your answers and comments! My comments are inline.
>
>
> *Q1: What is the real audience for the DWBP document?*
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>> *Q2: What will be the target audience for the BP? Data publishers or Data
>> Publishers and Data Consumers?*
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>> Data publishers. I am with Annette that these two audiences MUST be the
>> same.
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> I am still not convinced that the DWBP document is not interesting for
> re-users (already using the terminology presented by Makx) even if the
> scope is just BP for data publishers. If re-users will manipulate the data,
> don't you think that it will be good if they have some knowledge about the
> best practices used to create and publish the data?
>
>
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>> *Q3: Should we talk about data consumers in general or just about
>> developers?*
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>> One question that I ask myself is: what do we mean by developer? Do we
>> think about a technical developer, of apps or more generally of software,
>> or does the term include business people who are involved in designing and
>> developing products or services?
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>> To me, we are talking about a person or an organisation that consumes the
>> data that is made available to re-use it for some business goal or social
>> objective. In other environments, the term “re-user” is often used, to
>> distinguish the end-user who just looks at the data from the intermediary
>> who takes data from the publisher and delivers it in some value-added form
>> to the end user.
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>> Both the technical and the ‘business’ re-user will benefit from best
>> practice in data publication. For example, the technical developer benefits
>> from re-usable formats, while the business developer benefits from clear
>> licensing arrangements .
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>>
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>> So I would say that we consider developers in both categories, technical
>> and business, and we don’t consider end users. Otherwise we would also need
>> to talk about good user interface design, WCAG etc. However, as I said
>> before, I don’t think we should try to write best practice for re-users –
>> they will benefit from the good practice applied by data publishers.
>>
>
> + 1
> I like the idea of having a different terminology to denote different
> types of data consumers, i.e., end users and re-users. I also like the
> definition for developers"To me, we are talking about a person or an
> organisation that consumes the data that is made available to re-use it for
> some business goal or social objective."
>
> *Q4: What is the role of a data consumer? *
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>> A data consumer is either a re-user or an end user.
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> +1
>
> Cheers,
> Bernadette
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>
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>> Makx.
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>> *From:* Bernadette Farias Lóscio [mailto:bfl@cin.ufpe.br]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 18, 2014 11:21 PM
>> *To:* public-dwbp-wg@w3.org
>> *Subject:* Call for comments on open questions about the audience for
>> the DWBP doc
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
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>>
>>
>> This week we had a great discussion about the audience for the DWBP
>> document. However, we still have some open questions:
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>>
>>
>> 1. The Audience
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>> We don't have a consensus about the audience, i.e., if both data
>> publishers and data consumers are the audience of the document or just data
>> publishers.
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>> Maybe, we can't reach consensus because there are two types of audience:
>>
>>
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>> i. The audience for the document itself.
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>> ii. The target "audience" for the BP, i.e., the ones who will execute the
>> BP.
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>> These two types of audience may be different, i.e., the audience of the
>> document may consist of both data publishers and data consumers, but the
>> target audience for the BP is composed by data publishers. Even if we're
>> gonna have just BP for data publishers, the document may be relevant for
>> people interested on using the data.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Q1: What is the real audience for the DWBP document?*
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>>
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>> 2. The target audience for BP
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>> It is not clear if the document should have BP for data publishers and BP
>> for data consumers. Until now, the focus of the document is on BP for data
>> publishers. However, it is important to note that we already have some
>> requirements concerning data usage [2].
>>
>>
>>
>> We need to decide if we're gonna have these two types of BP (BP for data
>> publishers and BP for data consumers) in the DWBP document or the BP for
>> data consumers will be in another document.
>>
>>
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>> *Q2: What will be the target audience for the BP? Data publishers or Data
>> Publishers and Data Consumers?*
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>> 3. Data consumer x Developer
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>> The charter uses the term developer instead of data consumer, for
>> example, the mission of DWBP working group is "to develop the open data
>> ecosystem, facilitating better communication between developers and
>> publishers;" [1].
>>
>> It is important to decide if we're gonna consider just developers or if
>> we're gonna use the term data consumer to denote a broader class of people
>> interested on using data on the Web. Note that, in this case, data consumer
>> denotes the ones interested on manipulating the data and not the ones
>> interested on reading the data.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Q3: Should we talk about data consumers in general or just about
>> developers?*
>>
>>
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>> 4. The role of the data consumer
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>>
>>
>> We also had some discussions about the role of the data consumer. It is
>> not clear if the data consumer is the one who manipulates data on the Web
>> to produce data/information to end users or if the data consumer is the end
>> user.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Q4: What is the role of a data consumer? *
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>>
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>> It would be great to have your feedback about these questions. It is
>> important to reach a consensus about them in order to move on the right
>> direction on the writing of the DWBP document.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks again for all comments and suggestions!
>>
>> Bernadette
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>> --
>>
>> Bernadette Farias Lóscio
>> Centro de Informática
>> Universidade Federal de Pernambuco - UFPE, Brazil
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> Bernadette Farias Lóscio
> Centro de Informática
> Universidade Federal de Pernambuco - UFPE, Brazil
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