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Re: DPVCG next call(s) (was: Minutes telcon 21 Aug 2018)

From: Axel Polleres <axel.polleres@wu.ac.at>
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 19:06:35 +0200
Message-Id: <D7A2C941-9B41-46C1-B9F5-08F9EE3FC0E5@wu.ac.at>
Cc: Bert Bos <bert@w3.org>
To: public-dpvcg@w3.org
Sorry for the confusion, was looking at the wrong week in the calendar, the next call should actually have been 

> 	Tue, 4 September 2018, 16:00-17:00


(although I know that several people will be travelling or busy with review preparations, so, maybe let us know on the list whether you can attend or send regrets to get a feeling about attendance)

Thanks,
Axel

--
Prof. Dr. Axel Polleres
Institute for Information Business, WU Vienna
url: http://www.polleres.net/  twitter: @AxelPolleres

> On 28.08.2018, at 13:53, Axel Polleres <axel.polleres@wu.ac.at> wrote:
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> As mentioned in the call last time, we will try to find a way to connect via WebEx to MyData for these two slots:
> 
> 	1) https://mydata2018.org/sessions/semantic-interoperability-and-transparency/ <https://mydata2018.org/sessions/semantic-interoperability-and-transparency/>  August 30, 2018, 10:00 am-11:15 am (Eastern European Time), maybe I even manage to broadcast my presentation to the group's Webex, but can't promise yet, FWIW, my slides, the first half of which is mainly about DPVCG are here [1], the second half is on SPECIAL and will be presented by Ben.
> 
> 	2) https://mydata2018.org/programme/open-space/ <https://mydata2018.org/programme/open-space/>  Open Space August 30, 2018 with  slots between 13:30 and 18:00 (Eastern European Time), but due to the dynamic agenda building of Open Space I could not get a fixed slot, if during the agenda building phase at noon we manage to get a slot for DPVCG, I will announce it per mail to the group.
> 
> 
> As for the next regular call, I just realize we didn't announce it in last meeting's minutes. I propose we keep up the regular 2-weeks slot on Tue 16:00 which makes the next call:
> 
> 	Tue, 18 September 2018, 16:00-17:00
> 
> The agenda will be sent in advance, please - as usual - try to make progress with the assigned ACTIONs and we will hopefully manage to hear each other during the MyData conference.
> 
> best regards,
> Axel
> 
> 
> 1. http://polleres.net/presentations/ <http://polleres.net/presentations/>  
> --
> Prof. Dr. Axel Polleres
> Institute for Information Business, WU Vienna
> url: http://www.polleres.net/ <http://www.polleres.net/>  twitter: @AxelPolleres
> 
>> On 21.08.2018, at 21:47, Bert Bos <bert@w3.org <mailto:bert@w3.org>> wrote:
>> 
>> In HTML at
>> 
>>    https://www.w3.org/2018/08/21-dpvcg-minutes.html <https://www.w3.org/2018/08/21-dpvcg-minutes.html>
>> 
>> and in text below:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   [1]W3C
>> 
>>      [1] https://www.w3.org/ <https://www.w3.org/>
>> 
>>                             – DRAFT –
>> Data Privacy Vocabularies and Controls Community Group Teleconference
>> 
>> 21 August 2018
>> 
>>   [2]Previous meeting [3]Agenda [4]IRC log
>> 
>>      [2] https://www.w3.org/2018/08/07-dpvcg-minutes.html <https://www.w3.org/2018/08/07-dpvcg-minutes.html>
>>      [3] https://www.w3.org/mid/10915096.tUU11HEPGs@nyx <https://www.w3.org/mid/10915096.tUU11HEPGs@nyx>
>>      [4] https://www.w3.org/2018/08/21-dpvcg-irc <https://www.w3.org/2018/08/21-dpvcg-irc>
>> 
>> Attendees
>> 
>>   Present
>>          Axel, Bert, Harald, Harsh, Javier, Ramisa, Simon
>>          (simonstey)
>> 
>>   Regrets
>>          Eva
>> 
>>   Chair
>>          Bert
>> 
>>   Scribe
>>          AxelPollleres, simonstey
>> 
>> Contents
>> 
>>     * [5]Meeting Minutes
>>         1. [6]Roll call, select scribe, agenda
>>         2. [7]Minutes of last call
>>         3. [8]Action items
>>         4. [9]how to combine vocabularies
>>     * [10]Summary of Action Items
>>     * [11]Summary of Resolutions
>> 
>> Meeting Minutes
>> 
>> Roll call, select scribe, agenda
>> 
>>   Bert: any topics missing?
>> 
>> Minutes of last call
>> 
>>   Bert: hearing no objections
>> 
>> Action items
>> 
>>   <Bert> [12]actions
>> 
>>     [12] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/open <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/open>
>> 
>>   <simonstey> action-3
>> 
>>   <trackbot> action-3 -- Bert Bos to Clarify which github space
>>   we can use W3C's github space or if we need something else --
>>   due 2018-08-13 -- OPEN
>> 
>>   <trackbot> [13]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
>>   actions/3
>> 
>>     [13] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/3 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/3>
>> 
>>   bert: Bert will create a git repo soon.
>> 
>>   <simonstey> close action-3
>> 
>>   <trackbot> Closed action-3.
>> 
>>   close action 3
>> 
>>   <simonstey> action-6
>> 
>>   <trackbot> action-6 -- Michael Markevich to Draft something
>>   about Opera use case(s) -- due 2018-08-13 -- OPEN
>> 
>>   <trackbot> [14]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
>>   actions/6
>> 
>>     [14] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/6 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/6>
>> 
>>   <simonstey> action-7
>> 
>>   <trackbot> action-7 -- Bert Bos to Add some overview of SPECIAL
>>   use case(s) -- due 2018-08-13 -- OPEN
>> 
>>   <trackbot> [15]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
>>   actions/7
>> 
>>     [15] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/7 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/7>
>> 
>>   <simonstey> action-8
>> 
>>   <trackbot> action-8 -- Axel Polleres to Add some more starting
>>   point vocabulary stubs -- due 2018-08-13 -- OPEN
>> 
>>   <trackbot> [16]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
>>   actions/8
>> 
>>     [16] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/8 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/8>
>> 
>>   <simonstey> close action-8
>> 
>>   <trackbot> Closed action-8.
>> 
>>   close action-8
>> 
>>   <trackbot> Closed action-8.
>> 
>>   <Bert> action-9
>> 
>>   <trackbot> action-9 -- Axel Polleres to Include links to irc
>>   and minutes into the agenda next time -- due 2018-08-14 -- OPEN
>> 
>>   <trackbot> [17]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
>>   actions/9
>> 
>>     [17] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/9 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/9>
>> 
>>   <Bert> action-10
>> 
>>   <trackbot> action-10 -- Axel Polleres to Organize a call later
>>   on 30th after the mydata session or on friday morning to sync
>>   with people jooining through the conference.... will contact
>>   organizers. -- due 2018-08-14 -- OPEN
>> 
>>   <trackbot> [18]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
>>   actions/10
>> 
>>     [18] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/10 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/10>
>> 
>>   on 29th a dinner table for dinner table for "Semantic
>>   Interoparability" at Manala restaurant
>> 
>>   [19]http://www.manala.fi/?lang=en <http://www.manala.fi/?lang=en>
>> 
>>     [19] http://www.manala.fi/?lang=en <http://www.manala.fi/?lang=en>
>> 
>>   <trackbot> Notes added to action-10 Organize a call later on
>>   30th after the mydata session or on friday morning to sync with
>>   people jooining through the conference.... will contact
>>   organizers..
>> 
>>   our session is on 30th in the morning:
>> 
>>   [20]https://mydata2018.org/sessions/ <https://mydata2018.org/sessions/>
>>   semantic-interoperability-and-transparency/
>> 
>>     [20] https://mydata2018.org/sessions/semantic-interoperability-and-transparency/ <https://mydata2018.org/sessions/semantic-interoperability-and-transparency/>
>> 
>>   on 30th afternoon [21]https://mydata2018.org/sessions/ <https://mydata2018.org/sessions/>
>>   agenda-setting-for-open-space/
>> 
>>     [21] https://mydata2018.org/sessions/agenda-setting-for-open-space/ <https://mydata2018.org/sessions/agenda-setting-for-open-space/>
>> 
>>   <simonstey> AxelPollleres: organizing an openspace session too
>> 
>>   <simonstey> ... openspace session is after lunch, don't know
>>   which session it will be exactly though
>> 
>>   enough bandwidth given we will try to dial in the group for the
>>   open space session,
>> 
>>   [22]https://mydata2018.org/programme/ <https://mydata2018.org/programme/>
>> 
>>     [22] https://mydata2018.org/programme/ <https://mydata2018.org/programme/>
>> 
>>   there are 4 open space sessions yet, not yet sure what slot we
>>   get.
>> 
>>   Action: axel to talk to Joss about Mydata open space session
>>   and maybe try to pre-fix a slot.
>> 
>>   <trackbot> Created ACTION-16 - Talk to joss about mydata open
>>   space session and maybe try to pre-fix a slot. [on Axel
>>   Polleres - due 2018-08-28].
>> 
>>   <simonstey> action-11
>> 
>>   <trackbot> action-11 -- Axel Polleres to Reach out to
>>   industrial data spaces project (germany) and another austrian
>>   big data project (dma). -- due 2018-08-14 -- OPEN
>> 
>>   <trackbot> [23]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
>>   actions/11
>> 
>>     [23] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/11 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/11>
>> 
>>   <simonstey> action-12
>> 
>>   <trackbot> action-12 -- Simon Steyskal to Look over
>>   requirements template -- due 2018-08-14 -- OPEN
>> 
>>   <trackbot> [24]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
>>   actions/12
>> 
>>     [24] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/12 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/12>
>> 
>>   <simonstey> [25]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/>
>>   Template_for_requirements
>> 
>>     [25] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/Template_for_requirements <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/Template_for_requirements>
>> 
>>   [26]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/>
>>   Template_for_requirements
>> 
>>     [26] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/Template_for_requirements <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/Template_for_requirements>
>> 
>>   Simon: the template allows to vote on requirements in between
>>   calls.
>> 
>>   Action: Axel to try to modify the rquirements teamplate and
>>   instantiate it for some of the items on [27]https://www.w3.org/ <https://www.w3.org/>
>>   community/dpvcg/wiki/Use-Cases,_Requirements,_Vocabularies
>> 
>>     [27] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/Use-Cases,_Requirements,_Vocabularies <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/Use-Cases,_Requirements,_Vocabularies>
>> 
>>   <trackbot> Created ACTION-17 - Try to modify the rquirements
>>   teamplate and instantiate it for some of the items on
>>   [28]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/>
>>   use-cases,_requirements,_vocabularies [on Axel Polleres - due
>>   2018-08-28].
>> 
>>     [28] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/use-cases,_requirements,_vocabularies <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/use-cases,_requirements,_vocabularies>
>> 
>>   <simonstey> action-13
>> 
>>   <trackbot> action-13 -- Stefano Bocconi to Propose use case(s)
>>   for the decode project -- due 2018-08-14 -- OPEN
>> 
>>   <trackbot> [29]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
>>   actions/13
>> 
>>     [29] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/13 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/13>
>> 
>>   <simonstey> action-14
>> 
>>   <trackbot> action-14 -- Axel Polleres to Ask hendrik for
>>   edition ieee 7012 -- due 2018-08-14 -- OPEN
>> 
>>   <trackbot> [30]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
>>   actions/14
>> 
>>     [30] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/14 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/14>
>> 
>>   <simonstey> [31]https://standards.ieee.org/develop/project/ <https://standards.ieee.org/develop/project/>
>>   7012.html
>> 
>>     [31] https://standards.ieee.org/develop/project/7012.html <https://standards.ieee.org/develop/project/7012.html>
>> 
>>   <simonstey> action-15
>> 
>>   <trackbot> action-15 -- Eva Schlehahn to look over use cases
>>   template -- due 2018-08-14 -- OPEN
>> 
>>   <trackbot> [32]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
>>   actions/15
>> 
>>     [32] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/15 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/15>
>> 
>>   <Bert> [33]Eva's e-mail on use case template
>> 
>>     [33] https://www.w3.org/mid/9412d9d7-2aac-1d3b-f9f1-d0c0799d0369@datenschutzzentrum.de <https://www.w3.org/mid/9412d9d7-2aac-1d3b-f9f1-d0c0799d0369@datenschutzzentrum.de>
>> 
>>   <simonstey> AxelPollleres: Ben and I will talk about our
>>   efforts
>> 
>>   <Eva__ULD_> I sent my suggestions on the use case and on the
>>   requirements templates per email - so action done ;)
>> 
>>   Action: Javier to update the use case template wrt. Eva's
>>   version
>> 
>>   <trackbot> Error finding 'Javier'. You can review and register
>>   nicknames at <[34]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
>>   users>.
>> 
>>     [34] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/users <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/users>>.
>> 
>>   Javier: we probably need first the use cases to discuss more
>>   about requirements
>> 
>>   Axel: we should take the list from the workshop as starting
>>   points, see action above.
>> 
>> how to combine vocabularies
>> 
>>   <Eva__ULD_> I think it might depend heavily on the use cases
>>   which kind of taxonomies and vocabularies we need
>> 
>>   <harsh> Seems audio isn't working :(
>> 
>>   <harsh> But I agree with Axel
>> 
>>   maybe try typing? :-)
>> 
>>   <harsh> My question was: in light of what we discussed, should
>>   we start listing concepts and properties from listed
>>   vocabularies we might find interesting
>> 
>>   Can we agree that our goal is to work within one namespace and
>>   connect to it, instead of creating a coglomerate of
>>   voabularies?
>> 
>>   simon: I don't think we should invent an own use case, if we
>>   have one vocab that covers all.
>>   … we maybe only need a "best practices" document.
>>   … in ORDL you can specify consent, but not it's components.
>> 
>>   Axel: I think we could have a JSON-LD profile that describes
>>   the whole policies.
>>   … and collect our core terms.
>>   … single namespace we mape to or JSON-LD profile combining
>>   different namespaces, is not so relevant in the end, but
>>   coherend presentation of the terms we support and need.
>> 
>>   Javier: Are we closing the use cases or are we calling for
>>   external use cases?
>>   … so far they seem close to a couple of European projects.
>> 
>>   <harsh> Perhaps we could have a cut-off line for use-cases,
>>   after which we turn those collected use-cases into
>>   requirements?
>> 
>>   Axel: we need more use cases and should spread the word as far
>>   as we can.
>> 
>>   <harsh> Issue would be a good idea
>> 
>>   ISSUE: timeline/schedule, when should we stop collecting
>>   additional use cases?
>> 
>>   <trackbot> Created ISSUE-1 - Timeline/schedule, when should we
>>   stop collecting additional use cases?. Please complete
>>   additional details at <[35]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/>
>>   track/issues/1/edit>.
>> 
>>     [35] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/issues/1/edit <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/issues/1/edit>>.
>> 
>>   ISSUE-1: postponed until after Mydata
>> 
>>   <trackbot> Notes added to ISSUE-1 Timeline/schedule, when
>>   should we stop collecting additional use cases?.
>> 
>>   PROPOSED: next call 4 september, same time
>> 
>>   <AxelPollleres>+1:-)
>> 
>>   <simonstey> +1
>> 
>>   <Ramisa> +1
>> 
>>   Resolved: next call 4 september, same time.
>> 
>>   adjourned.
>> 
>> Summary of Action Items
>> 
>>    1. [36]axel to talk to Joss about Mydata open space session
>>       and maybe try to pre-fix a slot.
>>    2. [37]Axel to try to modify the rquirements teamplate and
>>       instantiate it for some of the items on https://www.w3.org/ <https://www.w3.org/>
>>       community/dpvcg/wiki/Use-Cases,_Requirements,_Vocabularies
>>    3. [38]Javier to update the use case template wrt. Eva's
>>       version
>> 
>> Summary of Resolutions
>> 
>>    1. [39]next call 4 september, same time.
>> 
>> 
>>    Minutes formatted by Bert Bos's [40]scribe.perl version 2.41
>>    (2018/03/23 13:13:49), a reimplementation of David Booth's
>>    [41]scribe.perl. See [42]CVS log.
>> 
>>     [40] https://dev.w3.org/2002/scribe2/scribedoc.html <https://dev.w3.org/2002/scribe2/scribedoc.html>
>>     [41] https://dev.w3.org/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm <https://dev.w3.org/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm>
>>     [42] https://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe2/ <https://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe2/>
>> 
>> Diagnostics
>> 
>>   Succeeded: i/any topics missing/Topic: Roll call, select
>>   scribe, agenda
>> 
>>   Succeeded: s/surewhat/sure what/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Bert
>> -- 
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