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Re: DPVCG next call(s)

From: Eva Schlehahn <uld67@datenschutzzentrum.de>
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 09:10:34 +0200
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Hi Axel,

unfortunately, I won't make it on the 4th. Please accept my apologies 
since I am on travel.

Greetings,

Eva

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Am 28.08.2018 um 19:06 schrieb Axel Polleres:
> Sorry for the confusion, was looking at the wrong week in the calendar, the next call should actually have been
>
>> 	Tue, 4 September 2018, 16:00-17:00
>
> (although I know that several people will be travelling or busy with review preparations, so, maybe let us know on the list whether you can attend or send regrets to get a feeling about attendance)
>
> Thanks,
> Axel
>
> --
> Prof. Dr. Axel Polleres
> Institute for Information Business, WU Vienna
> url: http://www.polleres.net/  twitter: @AxelPolleres
>
>> On 28.08.2018, at 13:53, Axel Polleres <axel.polleres@wu.ac.at> wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> As mentioned in the call last time, we will try to find a way to connect via WebEx to MyData for these two slots:
>>
>> 	1) https://mydata2018.org/sessions/semantic-interoperability-and-transparency/ <https://mydata2018.org/sessions/semantic-interoperability-and-transparency/>  August 30, 2018, 10:00 am-11:15 am (Eastern European Time), maybe I even manage to broadcast my presentation to the group's Webex, but can't promise yet, FWIW, my slides, the first half of which is mainly about DPVCG are here [1], the second half is on SPECIAL and will be presented by Ben.
>>
>> 	2) https://mydata2018.org/programme/open-space/ <https://mydata2018.org/programme/open-space/>  Open Space August 30, 2018 with  slots between 13:30 and 18:00 (Eastern European Time), but due to the dynamic agenda building of Open Space I could not get a fixed slot, if during the agenda building phase at noon we manage to get a slot for DPVCG, I will announce it per mail to the group.
>>
>>
>> As for the next regular call, I just realize we didn't announce it in last meeting's minutes. I propose we keep up the regular 2-weeks slot on Tue 16:00 which makes the next call:
>>
>> 	Tue, 18 September 2018, 16:00-17:00
>>
>> The agenda will be sent in advance, please - as usual - try to make progress with the assigned ACTIONs and we will hopefully manage to hear each other during the MyData conference.
>>
>> best regards,
>> Axel
>>
>>
>> 1. http://polleres.net/presentations/ <http://polleres.net/presentations/>
>> --
>> Prof. Dr. Axel Polleres
>> Institute for Information Business, WU Vienna
>> url: http://www.polleres.net/ <http://www.polleres.net/>  twitter: @AxelPolleres
>>
>>> On 21.08.2018, at 21:47, Bert Bos <bert@w3.org <mailto:bert@w3.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>> In HTML at
>>>
>>>     https://www.w3.org/2018/08/21-dpvcg-minutes.html <https://www.w3.org/2018/08/21-dpvcg-minutes.html>
>>>
>>> and in text below:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    [1]W3C
>>>
>>>       [1] https://www.w3.org/ <https://www.w3.org/>
>>>
>>>                              – DRAFT –
>>> Data Privacy Vocabularies and Controls Community Group Teleconference
>>>
>>> 21 August 2018
>>>
>>>    [2]Previous meeting [3]Agenda [4]IRC log
>>>
>>>       [2] https://www.w3.org/2018/08/07-dpvcg-minutes.html <https://www.w3.org/2018/08/07-dpvcg-minutes.html>
>>>       [3] https://www.w3.org/mid/10915096.tUU11HEPGs@nyx <https://www.w3.org/mid/10915096.tUU11HEPGs@nyx>
>>>       [4] https://www.w3.org/2018/08/21-dpvcg-irc <https://www.w3.org/2018/08/21-dpvcg-irc>
>>>
>>> Attendees
>>>
>>>    Present
>>>           Axel, Bert, Harald, Harsh, Javier, Ramisa, Simon
>>>           (simonstey)
>>>
>>>    Regrets
>>>           Eva
>>>
>>>    Chair
>>>           Bert
>>>
>>>    Scribe
>>>           AxelPollleres, simonstey
>>>
>>> Contents
>>>
>>>      * [5]Meeting Minutes
>>>          1. [6]Roll call, select scribe, agenda
>>>          2. [7]Minutes of last call
>>>          3. [8]Action items
>>>          4. [9]how to combine vocabularies
>>>      * [10]Summary of Action Items
>>>      * [11]Summary of Resolutions
>>>
>>> Meeting Minutes
>>>
>>> Roll call, select scribe, agenda
>>>
>>>    Bert: any topics missing?
>>>
>>> Minutes of last call
>>>
>>>    Bert: hearing no objections
>>>
>>> Action items
>>>
>>>    <Bert> [12]actions
>>>
>>>      [12] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/open <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/open>
>>>
>>>    <simonstey> action-3
>>>
>>>    <trackbot> action-3 -- Bert Bos to Clarify which github space
>>>    we can use W3C's github space or if we need something else --
>>>    due 2018-08-13 -- OPEN
>>>
>>>    <trackbot> [13]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
>>>    actions/3
>>>
>>>      [13] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/3 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/3>
>>>
>>>    bert: Bert will create a git repo soon.
>>>
>>>    <simonstey> close action-3
>>>
>>>    <trackbot> Closed action-3.
>>>
>>>    close action 3
>>>
>>>    <simonstey> action-6
>>>
>>>    <trackbot> action-6 -- Michael Markevich to Draft something
>>>    about Opera use case(s) -- due 2018-08-13 -- OPEN
>>>
>>>    <trackbot> [14]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
>>>    actions/6
>>>
>>>      [14] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/6 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/6>
>>>
>>>    <simonstey> action-7
>>>
>>>    <trackbot> action-7 -- Bert Bos to Add some overview of SPECIAL
>>>    use case(s) -- due 2018-08-13 -- OPEN
>>>
>>>    <trackbot> [15]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
>>>    actions/7
>>>
>>>      [15] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/7 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/7>
>>>
>>>    <simonstey> action-8
>>>
>>>    <trackbot> action-8 -- Axel Polleres to Add some more starting
>>>    point vocabulary stubs -- due 2018-08-13 -- OPEN
>>>
>>>    <trackbot> [16]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
>>>    actions/8
>>>
>>>      [16] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/8 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/8>
>>>
>>>    <simonstey> close action-8
>>>
>>>    <trackbot> Closed action-8.
>>>
>>>    close action-8
>>>
>>>    <trackbot> Closed action-8.
>>>
>>>    <Bert> action-9
>>>
>>>    <trackbot> action-9 -- Axel Polleres to Include links to irc
>>>    and minutes into the agenda next time -- due 2018-08-14 -- OPEN
>>>
>>>    <trackbot> [17]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
>>>    actions/9
>>>
>>>      [17] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/9 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/9>
>>>
>>>    <Bert> action-10
>>>
>>>    <trackbot> action-10 -- Axel Polleres to Organize a call later
>>>    on 30th after the mydata session or on friday morning to sync
>>>    with people jooining through the conference.... will contact
>>>    organizers. -- due 2018-08-14 -- OPEN
>>>
>>>    <trackbot> [18]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
>>>    actions/10
>>>
>>>      [18] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/10 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/10>
>>>
>>>    on 29th a dinner table for dinner table for "Semantic
>>>    Interoparability" at Manala restaurant
>>>
>>>    [19]http://www.manala.fi/?lang=en <http://www.manala.fi/?lang=en>
>>>
>>>      [19] http://www.manala.fi/?lang=en <http://www.manala.fi/?lang=en>
>>>
>>>    <trackbot> Notes added to action-10 Organize a call later on
>>>    30th after the mydata session or on friday morning to sync with
>>>    people jooining through the conference.... will contact
>>>    organizers..
>>>
>>>    our session is on 30th in the morning:
>>>
>>>    [20]https://mydata2018.org/sessions/ <https://mydata2018.org/sessions/>
>>>    semantic-interoperability-and-transparency/
>>>
>>>      [20] https://mydata2018.org/sessions/semantic-interoperability-and-transparency/ <https://mydata2018.org/sessions/semantic-interoperability-and-transparency/>
>>>
>>>    on 30th afternoon [21]https://mydata2018.org/sessions/ <https://mydata2018.org/sessions/>
>>>    agenda-setting-for-open-space/
>>>
>>>      [21] https://mydata2018.org/sessions/agenda-setting-for-open-space/ <https://mydata2018.org/sessions/agenda-setting-for-open-space/>
>>>
>>>    <simonstey> AxelPollleres: organizing an openspace session too
>>>
>>>    <simonstey> ... openspace session is after lunch, don't know
>>>    which session it will be exactly though
>>>
>>>    enough bandwidth given we will try to dial in the group for the
>>>    open space session,
>>>
>>>    [22]https://mydata2018.org/programme/ <https://mydata2018.org/programme/>
>>>
>>>      [22] https://mydata2018.org/programme/ <https://mydata2018.org/programme/>
>>>
>>>    there are 4 open space sessions yet, not yet sure what slot we
>>>    get.
>>>
>>>    Action: axel to talk to Joss about Mydata open space session
>>>    and maybe try to pre-fix a slot.
>>>
>>>    <trackbot> Created ACTION-16 - Talk to joss about mydata open
>>>    space session and maybe try to pre-fix a slot. [on Axel
>>>    Polleres - due 2018-08-28].
>>>
>>>    <simonstey> action-11
>>>
>>>    <trackbot> action-11 -- Axel Polleres to Reach out to
>>>    industrial data spaces project (germany) and another austrian
>>>    big data project (dma). -- due 2018-08-14 -- OPEN
>>>
>>>    <trackbot> [23]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
>>>    actions/11
>>>
>>>      [23] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/11 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/11>
>>>
>>>    <simonstey> action-12
>>>
>>>    <trackbot> action-12 -- Simon Steyskal to Look over
>>>    requirements template -- due 2018-08-14 -- OPEN
>>>
>>>    <trackbot> [24]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
>>>    actions/12
>>>
>>>      [24] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/12 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/12>
>>>
>>>    <simonstey> [25]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/>
>>>    Template_for_requirements
>>>
>>>      [25] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/Template_for_requirements <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/Template_for_requirements>
>>>
>>>    [26]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/>
>>>    Template_for_requirements
>>>
>>>      [26] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/Template_for_requirements <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/Template_for_requirements>
>>>
>>>    Simon: the template allows to vote on requirements in between
>>>    calls.
>>>
>>>    Action: Axel to try to modify the rquirements teamplate and
>>>    instantiate it for some of the items on [27]https://www.w3.org/ <https://www.w3.org/>
>>>    community/dpvcg/wiki/Use-Cases,_Requirements,_Vocabularies
>>>
>>>      [27] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/Use-Cases,_Requirements,_Vocabularies <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/Use-Cases,_Requirements,_Vocabularies>
>>>
>>>    <trackbot> Created ACTION-17 - Try to modify the rquirements
>>>    teamplate and instantiate it for some of the items on
>>>    [28]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/>
>>>    use-cases,_requirements,_vocabularies [on Axel Polleres - due
>>>    2018-08-28].
>>>
>>>      [28] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/use-cases,_requirements,_vocabularies <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/use-cases,_requirements,_vocabularies>
>>>
>>>    <simonstey> action-13
>>>
>>>    <trackbot> action-13 -- Stefano Bocconi to Propose use case(s)
>>>    for the decode project -- due 2018-08-14 -- OPEN
>>>
>>>    <trackbot> [29]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
>>>    actions/13
>>>
>>>      [29] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/13 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/13>
>>>
>>>    <simonstey> action-14
>>>
>>>    <trackbot> action-14 -- Axel Polleres to Ask hendrik for
>>>    edition ieee 7012 -- due 2018-08-14 -- OPEN
>>>
>>>    <trackbot> [30]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
>>>    actions/14
>>>
>>>      [30] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/14 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/14>
>>>
>>>    <simonstey> [31]https://standards.ieee.org/develop/project/ <https://standards.ieee.org/develop/project/>
>>>    7012.html
>>>
>>>      [31] https://standards.ieee.org/develop/project/7012.html <https://standards.ieee.org/develop/project/7012.html>
>>>
>>>    <simonstey> action-15
>>>
>>>    <trackbot> action-15 -- Eva Schlehahn to look over use cases
>>>    template -- due 2018-08-14 -- OPEN
>>>
>>>    <trackbot> [32]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
>>>    actions/15
>>>
>>>      [32] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/15 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/15>
>>>
>>>    <Bert> [33]Eva's e-mail on use case template
>>>
>>>      [33] https://www.w3.org/mid/9412d9d7-2aac-1d3b-f9f1-d0c0799d0369@datenschutzzentrum.de <https://www.w3.org/mid/9412d9d7-2aac-1d3b-f9f1-d0c0799d0369@datenschutzzentrum.de>
>>>
>>>    <simonstey> AxelPollleres: Ben and I will talk about our
>>>    efforts
>>>
>>>    <Eva__ULD_> I sent my suggestions on the use case and on the
>>>    requirements templates per email - so action done ;)
>>>
>>>    Action: Javier to update the use case template wrt. Eva's
>>>    version
>>>
>>>    <trackbot> Error finding 'Javier'. You can review and register
>>>    nicknames at <[34]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
>>>    users>.
>>>
>>>      [34] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/users <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/users>>.
>>>
>>>    Javier: we probably need first the use cases to discuss more
>>>    about requirements
>>>
>>>    Axel: we should take the list from the workshop as starting
>>>    points, see action above.
>>>
>>> how to combine vocabularies
>>>
>>>    <Eva__ULD_> I think it might depend heavily on the use cases
>>>    which kind of taxonomies and vocabularies we need
>>>
>>>    <harsh> Seems audio isn't working :(
>>>
>>>    <harsh> But I agree with Axel
>>>
>>>    maybe try typing? :-)
>>>
>>>    <harsh> My question was: in light of what we discussed, should
>>>    we start listing concepts and properties from listed
>>>    vocabularies we might find interesting
>>>
>>>    Can we agree that our goal is to work within one namespace and
>>>    connect to it, instead of creating a coglomerate of
>>>    voabularies?
>>>
>>>    simon: I don't think we should invent an own use case, if we
>>>    have one vocab that covers all.
>>>    … we maybe only need a "best practices" document.
>>>    … in ORDL you can specify consent, but not it's components.
>>>
>>>    Axel: I think we could have a JSON-LD profile that describes
>>>    the whole policies.
>>>    … and collect our core terms.
>>>    … single namespace we mape to or JSON-LD profile combining
>>>    different namespaces, is not so relevant in the end, but
>>>    coherend presentation of the terms we support and need.
>>>
>>>    Javier: Are we closing the use cases or are we calling for
>>>    external use cases?
>>>    … so far they seem close to a couple of European projects.
>>>
>>>    <harsh> Perhaps we could have a cut-off line for use-cases,
>>>    after which we turn those collected use-cases into
>>>    requirements?
>>>
>>>    Axel: we need more use cases and should spread the word as far
>>>    as we can.
>>>
>>>    <harsh> Issue would be a good idea
>>>
>>>    ISSUE: timeline/schedule, when should we stop collecting
>>>    additional use cases?
>>>
>>>    <trackbot> Created ISSUE-1 - Timeline/schedule, when should we
>>>    stop collecting additional use cases?. Please complete
>>>    additional details at <[35]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/>
>>>    track/issues/1/edit>.
>>>
>>>      [35] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/issues/1/edit <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/issues/1/edit>>.
>>>
>>>    ISSUE-1: postponed until after Mydata
>>>
>>>    <trackbot> Notes added to ISSUE-1 Timeline/schedule, when
>>>    should we stop collecting additional use cases?.
>>>
>>>    PROPOSED: next call 4 september, same time
>>>
>>>    <AxelPollleres>+1:-)
>>>
>>>    <simonstey> +1
>>>
>>>    <Ramisa> +1
>>>
>>>    Resolved: next call 4 september, same time.
>>>
>>>    adjourned.
>>>
>>> Summary of Action Items
>>>
>>>     1. [36]axel to talk to Joss about Mydata open space session
>>>        and maybe try to pre-fix a slot.
>>>     2. [37]Axel to try to modify the rquirements teamplate and
>>>        instantiate it for some of the items on https://www.w3.org/ <https://www.w3.org/>
>>>        community/dpvcg/wiki/Use-Cases,_Requirements,_Vocabularies
>>>     3. [38]Javier to update the use case template wrt. Eva's
>>>        version
>>>
>>> Summary of Resolutions
>>>
>>>     1. [39]next call 4 september, same time.
>>>
>>>
>>>     Minutes formatted by Bert Bos's [40]scribe.perl version 2.41
>>>     (2018/03/23 13:13:49), a reimplementation of David Booth's
>>>     [41]scribe.perl. See [42]CVS log.
>>>
>>>      [40] https://dev.w3.org/2002/scribe2/scribedoc.html <https://dev.w3.org/2002/scribe2/scribedoc.html>
>>>      [41] https://dev.w3.org/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm <https://dev.w3.org/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm>
>>>      [42] https://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe2/ <https://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe2/>
>>>
>>> Diagnostics
>>>
>>>    Succeeded: i/any topics missing/Topic: Roll call, select
>>>    scribe, agenda
>>>
>>>    Succeeded: s/surewhat/sure what/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bert
>>> -- 
>>>   Bert Bos                                ( W 3 C ) http://www.w3.org/ <http://www.w3.org/>
>>>   http://www.w3.org/people/bos <http://www.w3.org/people/bos>                               W3C/ERCIM
>>>   bert@w3.org <mailto:bert@w3.org>                             2004 Rt des Lucioles / BP 93
>>>   +33 (0)4 92 38 76 92            06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, France
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