- From: Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 16:45:17 +0100
- To: AUDRAIN LUC <LAUDRAIN@hachette-livre.fr>, W3C Digital Publishing IG <public-digipub-ig@w3.org>
Luc, For some reason the server does not do content negociation. Seems it needs the .html extension therefore try full URI http://www.w3.org/2013/dpub-IG-minutes/2014-01-27.html it should be fine ... Thierry On 28/01/2014 15:44, AUDRAIN LUC wrote: > Hi Thierry, > Minutes are badly formatted and cannot be read. Could it be fixed? > Thanks, > Luc > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : Thierry MICHEL [mailto:tmichel@w3.org] > Envoyé : mardi 28 janvier 2014 10:52 > À : W3C Digital Publishing IG > Objet : [Minutes] 2014-01-27 Digital Publishing Interest Group Teleconference > > Hi all, > > The minutes of the Digital Publishing Interest Group Teleconference > dated 2014-01-27 are now available at > > http://www.w3.org/2013/dpub-IG-minutes/2014-01-27 > > These public minutes are also linked from the dpub wiki > http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Meetings > > Also find these minutes in a text version following, for your convenience. > > Best, > > Thierry Michel > > ---------------------------- > > > Digital Publishing Interest Group Teleconference > > Minutes of 27 January 2014 > > Agenda > [1]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-digipub-ig > /2014Jan/0033.html > > [1] > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-digipub-ig/2014Jan/0033.html > > Present > [2]Alan Stearns, [3]Bill Kasdorf, [4]Brady Duga, [5]Dave > Cramer, [6]Dmitry Shkolnik, [7]Frederick Hirsch, > [8]Gerardo Capiel, [9]Ivan Herman, [10]Jean Kaplansky, > [11]Julie Morris, [12]Laura Fowler, [13]Liam Quin, > [14]Liza Daly, [15]Luc Audrain, [16]Markus Gylling, > [17]Phil Madans, [18]Richard Schwerdtfeger, [19]Robert > Sanderson, [20]Suzanne Taylor, [21]Thierry Michel, > [22]Tom De Nies, [23]Karen Myers, [24]Vladimir > Levantovsky > > [2] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Alan_Stearns > [3] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Bill_Kasdorf > [4] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Brady_Duga > [5] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Dave_Cramer > [6] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Dmitry_Shkolnik > [7] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Frederick_Hirsch > [8] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Gerardo_Capiel > [9] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman > [10] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Jean_Kaplansky > [11] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Julie_Morris > [12] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Laura_Fowler > [13] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Liam_Quin > [14] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Liza_Daly > [15] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Luc_Audrain > [16] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > [17] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Phil_Madans > [18] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Richard_Schwerdtfeger > [19] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson > [20] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Suzanne_Taylor > [21] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Thierry_Michel > [22] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Tom_De_Nies > [23] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [24] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Vladimir_Levantovsky > > Regrets > [25]Dave Cramer, [26]Ivan Herman, [27]Alan Stearns, > [28]Liam Quin, [29]Luc Audrain, [30]Phil Madans, [31]Tom > De Nies > > [25] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Dave_Cramer > [26] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman > [27] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Alan_Stearns > [28] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Liam_Quin > [29] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Luc_Audrain > [30] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Phil_Madans > [31] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Tom_De_Nies > > Scribe > [32]Karen Myers > > [32] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > IRC Log > [33]Original > > [33] http://www.w3.org/2014/01/27-dpub-irc > > Resolutions > None. > > Topics > > 1. [34]Approval of previous meeting minutes > 2. [35]Annotations TF: planning for publishing > requirements as Note > > [36]Liza Daly: Yes [37]← > 15:59:44 <karen> zakim, code? > > [36] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Liza_Daly > > [38]Markus Gylling: Karen, ok to scribe? > [39]← > 16:00:30 <Zakim> +duga > > [38] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > > Zakim IRC Bot: +duga [40]← > 16:00:38 <Zakim> +??P21 > > Zakim IRC Bot: +??P21 [41]← > 16:00:47 <Zakim> +Karen_Myers > > Zakim IRC Bot: +Karen_Myers [42]← > 16:00:52 <tmichel> zakim, ??P21 is me > > [43]Thierry Michel: zakim, ??P21 is me [44]← > 16:00:52 <Zakim> +tmichel; got it > > [43] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Thierry_Michel > > Zakim IRC Bot: +tmichel; got it [45]← > 16:01:23 <mgylling> zakim, who is here > > [46]Markus Gylling: zakim, who is here [47]← > 16:01:23 <Zakim> mgylling, you need to end that query with '?' > > [46] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > > Zakim IRC Bot: mgylling, you need to end that query with '?' > [48]← > 16:01:35 <mgylling> zakim, aadd is LFowler > > [49]Markus Gylling: zakim, aadd is LFowler [50]← > 16:01:35 <Zakim> +LFowler; got it > > [49] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > > Zakim IRC Bot: +LFowler; got it [51]← > 16:01:41 <tmichel> zakim, who is here ? > > [52]Thierry Michel: zakim, who is here ? [53]← > 16:01:41 <Zakim> On the phone I see Rich_Schwerdtfeger, lizadaly, mgylli > ng, azaroth, +1.646.336.aabb (muted), LFowler, Vlad, duga, tmichel, Kare > n_Myers > > [52] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Thierry_Michel > > Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Rich_Schwerdtfeger, lizadaly, > mgylling, azaroth, +1.646.336.aabb (muted), LFowler, Vlad, > duga, tmichel, Karen_Myers [54]← > 16:01:43 <Zakim> On IRC I see gcapiel, JeanK, benjaminsko, Vlad, fjh, az > aroth, LFowler, liza, Zakim, RRSAgent, brady_duga, richardschwerdtfeger, > tmichel, mgylling, karen, liam, astearns, plinss, > > Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see gcapiel, JeanK, benjaminsko, Vlad, > fjh, azaroth, LFowler, liza, Zakim, RRSAgent, brady_duga, > richardschwerdtfeger, tmichel, mgylling, karen, liam, astearns, > plinss, [55]← > 16:01:43 <Zakim> ... trackbot > > Zakim IRC Bot: ... trackbot [56]← > 16:02:01 <tmichel> wHO IS 1.646.336.aabb , > > [57]Thierry Michel: who is 1.646.336.aabb , [58]← > 16:02:22 <Zakim> +??P31 > > [57] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Thierry_Michel > > Zakim IRC Bot: +??P31 [59]← > 16:02:24 <Zakim> +JeanKaplansky > > Zakim IRC Bot: +JeanKaplansky [60]← > 16:02:28 <Zakim> +AWK > > Zakim IRC Bot: +AWK [61]← > 16:02:35 <Zakim> -Karen_Myers > > 16:02:50 <Zakim> +Marilyn > > Zakim IRC Bot: +Marilyn [62]← > 16:02:53 <gcapiel> Zakim, ??P31 is me > > [63]Gerardo Capiel: Zakim, ??P31 is me [64]← > 16:02:53 <tmichel> IS ??P31 JeanKaplansky OR Karen_Myers , > [65] > > [63] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Gerardo_Capiel > [65] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Thierry_Michel > > Thierry Michel: is ??P31 Jean Kaplansky or Karen Myers , [66]← > 16:02:54 <Zakim> +gcapiel; got it > > Zakim IRC Bot: +gcapiel; got it [67]← > 16:03:16 <dshkolnik> Zakim, AWK is dshkolnik > > [68]Dmitry Shkolnik: Zakim, AWK is dshkolnik [69]← > 16:03:16 <Zakim> +dshkolnik; got it > > [68] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Dmitry_Shkolnik > > Zakim IRC Bot: +dshkolnik; got it [70]← > 16:03:18 <Zakim> +Karen_Myers > > Zakim IRC Bot: +Karen_Myers [71]← > 16:03:21 <Zakim> +[IPcaller] > > Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] [72]← > 16:03:23 <fjh> zakim, IPcaller is me > > [73]Frederick Hirsch: zakim, IPcaller is me [74]← > 16:03:23 <Zakim> +fjh; got it > > [73] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Frederick_Hirsch > > Zakim IRC Bot: +fjh; got it [75]← > 16:03:29 <fjh> Present+ Frederick_Hirsch > 16:03:47 <karen> Markus: Let's get going > > [76]Markus Gylling: Let's get going > [77]Julie Morris: I'm at a 646 number > 16:04:03 <mgylling> Zakim, aabb is Julie Morris > > [76] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > [77] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Julie_Morris > > [78]Markus Gylling: Zakim, aabb is Julie Morris [79]← > 16:04:03 <Zakim> I don't understand 'aabb is Julie Morris', mgylling > > [78] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > > Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'aabb is Julie Morris', > mgylling [80]← > 16:04:06 <Zakim> + +1.917.447.aaee > > Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.917.447.aaee [81]← > 16:04:29 <karen> Markus: Thierry, if you can assign that to Julie > [82] > > [82] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > Karen Myers: ...Welcome everyone [83]← > 16:04:41 <mgylling> regrets: Dave Cramer, Ivan Herman, Alan Stearns, Lia > m Quin, Luc Audrain, Phil Madans, Tom De Nies > 16:04:41 <tmichel> Zakim, 1.646.336.aabb is Julie Morris > > [84]Thierry Michel: Zakim, 1.646.336.aabb is Julie Morris [85]← > 16:04:41 <Zakim> I don't understand '1.646.336.aabb is Julie Morris', tm > ichel > > [84] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Thierry_Michel > > Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand '1.646.336.aabb is Julie > Morris', tmichel [86]← > 16:04:41 <karen> ...We have Karen scribing today > > [87]Karen Myers: ...We have Karen scribing today > [88]Karen Myers: ...and registering regrets [89]← > [90]Karen Myers: ...Short agenda for today [91]← > 16:05:03 <karen> ...As you know, we are running these focused themes wit > h the task forces > > [87] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [88] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [90] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [92]Karen Myers: ...As you know, we are running these focused > themes with the task forces [93]← > 16:05:05 <Zakim> +Bill_Kasdorf > > [92] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > Zakim IRC Bot: +Bill_Kasdorf [94]← > 16:05:16 <karen> ...We don't have a new task force today because we have > an urgent matter to cover annotations > > [95]Karen Myers: ...We don't have a new task force today > because we have an urgent matter to cover annotations [96]← > [97]Karen Myers: ...But on this call we'll decide what task > force to review next week [98]← > 16:05:34 <karen> ...We have one person who has not yet made it to our ca > lls > > [95] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [97] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [99]Karen Myers: ...We have one person who has not yet made it > to our calls [100]← > [101]Karen Myers: ...Rich, can you say a few words? [102]← > 16:05:47 <karen> Rich: I am CTO for IBM software > > [99] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [101] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [103]Richard Schwerdtfeger: I am CTO for Accessibility for IBM > software > B[104]ill Kasdorf: has Julie from BISG been introduced? [105]← > 16:05:52 <karen> ...and chair the ARIA standards effort > > [103] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Richard_Schwerdtfeger > [104] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Bill_Kasdorf > > [106]Karen Myers: ...and chair the ARIA standards effort [107]← > 16:06:01 <tmichel> topic: Approval of previous meeting minutes > > [106] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > 1. Approval of previous meeting minutes > > 16:06:14 <karen> Markus: Last week's minutes are published > > [108]Markus Gylling: Last week's minutes are published > 16:06:19 <karen> ...any objections to accepting them? > > [108] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > > [109]Karen Myers: ...any objections to accepting them? [110]← > 16:06:26 <richardschwerdtfeger> s/CTO/CTO for Accessibility/ > 16:06:33 <tmichel> topic: Annotations TF: planning for publishing requir > ements as Note > > [109] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > 2. Annotations TF: planning for publishing requirements as Note > > 16:06:51 <karen> Markus: there is work underway to propose the formation > of a working track working group > > [111]Markus Gylling: there is work underway to propose the > formation of a working track working group > 16:07:01 <karen> ...of the open annotations community group > [112] > > [111] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > [112] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > Karen Myers: ...of the open annotations community group [113]← > 16:07:15 <karen> ...we are thinking to fast track the requirements so th > ey can be used and referenced by the WG > > [114]Karen Myers: ...we are thinking to fast track the > requirements so they can be used and referenced by the WG > [115]← > 16:07:26 <karen> ...anything else, Rob, in terms of context? > > [114] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [116]Karen Myers: ...anything else, Rob, in terms of context? > [117]← > 16:07:35 <karen> Rob: in order to ensure all the requirements in the IG > are met > > [116] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > > [118]Robert Sanderson: in order to ensure all the requirements > of the IG are met > [119]Karen Myers: ...in the WG process [120]← > 16:07:58 <karen> ...would be great to have the usec cases if not entirel > y finished, at least be a lot more formalized than they are now > > [118] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson > [119] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [121]Karen Myers: ...would be great to have the usec cases if > not entirely finished, at least be a lot more formalized than > they are now > [122]Markus Gylling: To do this, the first thing to keep in > mind > 16:08:13 <karen> ...is that this is the process all the task forces will > go through > > [121] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [122] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > > [123]Karen Myers: ...is that this is the process all the task > forces will go through [124]← > 16:08:23 <azaroth> s/in the IG/of the IG/ > 16:08:25 <karen> ...Use of the wiki is in the initial stage of the Task > Force work > > [123] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [125]Karen Myers: ...Use of the wiki is in the initial stage of > the Task Force work [126]← > 16:08:29 <azaroth> s/and the WG/in the WG/ > 16:08:36 <karen> ...we expect taht they will formalize in Note documents > [127] > > [125] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [127] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > Karen Myers: ...we expect that they will formalize in Note > documents [128]← > 16:08:49 <karen> ...It looks like annotations task force will take the n > ext steps in this sequence first > > [129]Karen Myers: ...It looks like annotations task force will > take the next steps in this sequence first [130]← > [131]Karen Myers: ...but we want to clarify with the sequence > first [132]← > 16:09:03 <karen> ...And hope Karen can help us > > [129] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [131] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [133]Karen Myers: ...And hope Karen can help us [134]← > 16:09:17 <karen> ...basically I think there is the following steps > > [133] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [135]Karen Myers: ...basically I think there is the following > steps [136]← > 16:09:21 <karen> ...let me throw them out here > > [135] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [137]Karen Myers: ...let me throw them out here [138]← > 16:09:34 <karen> ...First is that we as an IG go over the wiki and fill > in any blanks or missing areas that we can find > > [137] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [139]Karen Myers:: ...First is that we as an IG go over the > wiki and fill in any blanks or missing areas that we can find > [140]← > 16:09:46 <karen> ...Second step is that the task force produces a first > version of the Note document > > [139] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [141]Karen Myers: ...Second step is that the task force > produces a first version of the Note document [142]← > 16:09:51 <karen> ...and we abandon the wiki at that stage > > [141] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [143]Karen Myers: ...and we abandon the wiki at that stage > [144]← > 16:10:03 <karen> ...and likely use Respect and JS to produce a Note > > [143] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [145]Karen Myers: ...and likely use ReSpec JS to produce a Note > [146]← > [147]Karen Myers: ...at that point, it is the IG's first public > draft [148]← > 16:10:26 <karen> ...and we accept comments both internally with W3C and > on the mailing list within a period of time > > [145] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [147] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [149]Karen Myers: ...and we accept comments both internally > with W3C and on the mailing list within a period of time [150]← > [151]Karen Myers: ...let's say it's one month [152]← > 16:10:43 <azaroth> s/Respect and JS/ReSpec JS/ > 16:10:43 <karen> ...And once the comment period is done and edits are do > ne, we are ready to publish the Note > > [149] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [151] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [153]Karen Myers: ...And once the comment period is done and > edits are done, we are ready to publish the Note [154]← > 16:10:49 <karen> ...i don't think it's much more complex than that > > [153] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [155]Karen Myers: ...i don't think it's much more complex than > that[156]← > 16:10:55 <azaroth> \me http://www.w3.org/respec/ > > [155] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [157]Robert Sanderson: \me [158]http://www.w3.org/respec/ > [159]← > 16:11:02 <karen> ...Notes are not too high ranking in w3C space > [160] > > [157] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson > [158] http://www.w3.org/respec/ > [160] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > Karen Myers: ...Notes are not too high ranking in w3C space > [161]← > 16:11:44 <karen> Karen: we can review process document...just the time f > rame may need checking > > [162]Karen Myers: we can review process document...just the > time frame may need checking > 16:12:01 <karen> Markus: We need to be done... > > [162] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [163]Karen Myers: We need to be done...[164]← > 16:12:06 <karen> ...does this sound feasible? > > [163] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [165]Karen Myers: ...does this sound feasible? [166]← > 16:12:09 <karen> Rob: yes, that sounds good > [167] > > [165] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [167] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson > > Robert Sanderson: yes, that sounds good > 16:12:21 <karen> ...in terms of timing, we need to have something charte > rwise that can be discussed by 1 April > > [168]Karen Myers: ...in terms of timing, we need to have > something charterwise that can be discussed by 1 April [169]← > 16:12:27 <karen> ...meaning that the Note should be in a good state > > [168] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [170]Karen Myers: ...meaning that the Note should be in a good > state [171]← > [172]Karen Myers: ...according to the IG [173]← > 16:12:40 <karen> ...about one month or three weeks before the annotation > s > > [170] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [172] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [174]Karen Myers: ...about one month or three weeks before the > annotations [175]← > 16:12:46 <karen> ...would go three weeks to write the note > > [174] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [176]Karen Myers: ...would go three weeks to write the note > [177]← > 16:12:55 <karen> Markus: are you ok with producing a version of the Note > now > > [176] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [178]Markus Gylling: are you ok with producing a version of the > Note now > 16:12:58 <karen> ...in a week or so? > > [178] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > > [179]Karen Myers: ...in a week or so? > [180]← > 16:13:06 <karen> Rob: I can try for within a week > > [179] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [181]Robert Sanderson: I can try for within a week > [182]Markus Gylling: we spend time today looking at the wiki > about we have and don't > 16:13:28 <karen> ...then have a one-week window for the IG to look at it > further > [183] > > [181] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson > [182] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > [183] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > Karen Myers: ...then have a one-week window for the IG to look > at it further [184]← > 16:13:35 <Suzanne> q+ > > [185]Suzanne Taylor: q+ [186]← > 16:13:40 <karen> ...and then following week produce first draft version > of the Note > > [185] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Suzanne_Taylor > > [187]Karen Myers: ...and then following week produce first > draft version of the Note > 16:13:45 <karen> Rob: my only concern with that > > [187] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [188]Robert Sanderson: : my only concern with that > 16:14:00 <karen> ...is having @ in the Note referring to use cases that > don't get agreed upon in the IG > [189] > > [188] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson > [189] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > Karen Myers: ...is having @ in the Note referring to use cases > that don't get agreed upon in the IG [190]← > 16:14:08 <karen> ...if Note lists all the use cases, that is easy > > [191]Karen Myers: ...if Note lists all the use cases, that is > easy [192]← > 16:14:13 <tmichel> first draft version of the Note I guess is an editor > 's document ? > > [191] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [193]Thierry Michel: first draft version of the Note I guess is > an editor's document ? [194]← > 16:14:20 <karen> ...but if it's tracking down more references, that coul > d be complicated > > [193] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Thierry_Michel > > [195]Karen Myers: ...but if it's tracking down more references, > that could be complicated [196]← > 16:14:34 <karen> Markus: if everything goes well by next Monday, we shou > ld have IG's blessing for all or a subset? > > [195] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [197]Markus Gylling: if everything goes well by next Monday, we > should have IG's blessing for all or a subset? > 16:14:41 <karen> ...And that is your greenlight to produce a Note > [198] > > [197] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > [198] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > Karen Myers: ...And that is your greenlight to produce a Note > [199]← > [200]Robert Sanderson: if we can do it in that timeframe, that > would be fantastic > 16:15:00 <karen> Markus: yes, it might take longer, but we have been thr > ough it before > > [200] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson > > [201]Markus Gylling: yes, it might take longer, but we have > been through it before > 16:15:10 <karen> ...I would be surprised to see a storm of complaints > [202] > > [201] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > [202] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > Karen Myers: ...I would be surprised to see a storm of > complaints [203]← > 16:15:21 <karen> Thierry: the first document we will produce is a first > draft Editor's document > > [204]Thierry Michel: the first document we will produce is a > first draft Editor's document > 16:15:29 <karen> ...and once IG is ok, we'll move it to a w3C Note > > [204] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Thierry_Michel > > [205]Karen Myers: ...and once IG is ok, we'll move it to a w3C > Note [206]← > [207]Karen Myers: ...and sooner or later we can republish that > Note when we want to add changes there [208]← > 16:15:44 <karen> Markus: right > > [205] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [207] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [209]Markus Gylling: right > 16:15:50 <karen> ack Suszanne > > [209] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > > [210]Suzanne Taylor: there are accessibility implications for > annotations > 16:16:11 <Suzanne> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Mark_Highlighting > > [210] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Suzanne_Taylor > > [211]Suzanne Taylor: > [212]http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Mark_Highlighting [213]← > 16:16:27 <Bill_Kasdorf> q+ > > [211] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Suzanne_Taylor > [212] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Mark_Highlighting > > [214]Bill Kasdorf: q+ [215]← > 16:16:29 <karen> ...It would be good if Gerardo, others in accessibility > task force had time to look over the annotations carefully > > [214] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Bill_Kasdorf > > [216]Karen Myers: ...It would be good if Gerardo, others in > accessibility task force had time to look over the annotations > carefully [217]← > 16:16:38 <karen> ...with view about making annotations themselves access > ible > > [216] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > ...with view about making annotations themselves accessible > [218]← > 16:16:47 <karen> ...We are at a conference this week and would need more > days next week > [219] > > [219] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > Karen Myers: ...We are at a conference this week and would need > more days next week > [220]Markus Gylling: yes, maybe we should... > [221]Markus Gylling: > [222]http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/UseCase_Directory#Social_Re > ading_and_Annotations [223]← > 16:17:00 <karen> ...ask people to just navigate to this URL > > [220] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > [221] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > [222] > http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/UseCase_Directory#Social_Reading_and_Annotations > > [224]Karen Myers: ...ask people to just navigate to this URL > [225]← > 16:17:09 <karen> ...you jumped straight into what we have now > > [224] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [226]Karen Myers: ...you jumped straight into what we have now > [227]← > 16:17:17 <karen> ...What you referenced, Suzanne is the last use case > > [226] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [228]Karen Myers: ...What you referenced, Suzanne is the last > use case [229]← > 16:17:27 <gcapiel> I agree. Thanks Suzzane > > [228] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [230]Gerardo Capiel: I agree. Thanks Suzzane > [231]← > 16:17:34 <karen> ...Looking at the list, Rob, to give use bearing > > [230] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Gerardo_Capiel > > [232]Karen Myers: ...Looking at the list, Rob, to give use > bearing [233]← > 16:17:40 <karen> ...from CG perspective, how complete is this > > [232] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [234]Karen Myers: ...from CG perspective, how complete is this > [235]← > 16:17:44 <karen> ...on a scale from one to 100 > > [234] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [236]Karen Myers: ...on a scale from one to 100 [237]← > 16:17:48 <karen> Rob: 95 > [238] > > [236] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [238] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson > > Robert Sanderson: 95 > [239]Karen Myers: ...it pretty much covers what the CG has > discussed [240]← > 16:18:06 <karen> ...one or two things which are part of the current spec > ification > > [239] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [241]Karen Myers:: ...one or two things which are part of the > current specification [242]← > 16:18:15 <karen> ...that there were use cases for but they were very spe > cific > > [241] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [243]Karen Myers: ...that there were use cases for but they > were very specific [244]← > 16:18:22 <karen> ...cannot think of anything that made them useful in pu > blishing domain > > [243] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [245]Karen Myers: ...cannot think of anything that made them > useful in publishing domain [246]← > 16:18:29 <karen> ...A few things not in CG such as packages use cases > > [245] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [247]Karen Myers: ...A few things not in CG such as packages > use cases [248]← > 16:18:42 <karen> ...and recording the state of user manipulated resource > s is not covered > > [247] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [249]Karen Myers:...and recording the state of user manipulated > resources is not covered [250]← > 16:18:47 <karen> ...that is far too complicated to come out > > [249] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [251]Karen Myers: ...that is far too complicated to come out > [252]← > 16:19:01 <karen> Markus: yes, I see a bunch that comes from discussions > we have had here and within the EPUB WG > > [251] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [253]Markus Gylling: yes, I see a bunch that comes from > discussions we have had here and within the EPUB WG > 16:19:08 <karen> ...the packaging of annotations as well as under other > > [253] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > > [254]Karen Myers: ...the packaging of annotations as well as > under other [255]← > 16:19:09 <Zakim> -lizadaly > > [254] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > Zakim IRC Bot: -lizadaly [256]← > 16:19:15 <lizadaly> argh > > [257]Liza Daly: argh [258]← > 16:19:20 <karen> ...specififying the target audience stem from EPUB work > [259] > > [257] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Liza_Daly > [259] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > Karen Myers: ...specififying the target audience stem from EPUB > work [260]← > 16:19:24 <karen> Rob: huge jump slightly > > [261]Robert Sanderson: huge jump slightly > 16:19:40 <mgylling> q? > > [261] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson > > [262]Markus Gylling: q? [263]← > 16:19:42 <Zakim> +lizadaly > > [262] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > > Zakim IRC Bot: +lizadaly [264]← > 16:19:43 <karen> ...Suzanne, did you expect that accessibility of annota > tions is an accessibility use case, an annotations use case, or both > [265] > > [265] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > Karen Myers: ...Suzanne, did you expect that accessibility of > annotations is an accessibility use case, an annotations use > case, or both [266]← > 16:19:52 <karen> Suzanne: I worry...most important thing > > [267]Suzanne Taylor: I worry...most important thing > 16:19:58 <karen> ...is that actual interface be accessible > > [267] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Suzanne_Taylor > > [268]Karen Myers: ...is that actual interface be accessible > [269]← > 16:20:08 <karen> ...if we keep it only in accessibility it will be in a > second releasea > > [268] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [270]Karen Myers: ...if we keep it only in accessibility it > will be in a second releasea [271]← > 16:20:20 <karen> ...I would like to see it in the annotations work if po > ssible > > [270] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [272]Karen Myers: ...I would like to see it in the annotations > work if possible [273]← > 16:20:24 <karen> Gerardo: I totally agree > > [272] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [274]Gerardo Capiel: I totally agree > 16:20:44 <karen> ...accessibility was not thought through in first pass > with [example Hypothes.is] > > [274] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Gerardo_Capiel > > [275]Karen Myers: ...accessibility was not thought through in > first pass with [example Hypothes.is] [276]← > 16:20:49 <karen> ...description, post production > > [275] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [277]Karen Myers: ...description, post production [278]← > 16:21:13 <karen> Markus: we got that you agree with Suzanne > > [277] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [279]Markus Gylling: we got that you agree with Suzanne > 16:21:22 <karen> ...So is that an easy item for you to carry in here, Ro > b? > > [279] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > > [280]Karen Myers:: ...So is that an easy item for you to carry > in here, Rob? [281]← > 16:21:40 <karen> Rob: I am not at all versed in accessibility concerns, > but happy to work with people who are > [282] > > [280] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [282] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson > > Robert Sanderson: I am not at all versed in accessibility > concerns, but happy to work with people who are > 16:21:47 <karen> ...I could not draft a first version of that requiremen > t > > [283]Karen Myers: ...I could not draft a first version of that > requirement [284]← > 16:21:49 <karen> Markus: right > > [283] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [285]Markus Gylling: right > 16:22:00 <karen> ...if we look at your collection right now, it is not t > alking about interface properties > [286] > > [285] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > [286] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > Karen Myers: ...if we look at your collection right now, it is > not talking about interface properties [287]← > [288]Karen Myers:...talking about the data itself, not the > interface [289]← > [290]Robert Sanderson: one does touch on interface > 16:22:20 <gcapiel> Sorry, on train. I was just saying that annotations > are very applicable for post-production image description and descriptio > n of other visual elements. Also, it seems that accessibility has been > an afterthought with existing solutions. > > [288] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [290] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson > > [291]Gerardo Capiel: Sorry, on train. I was just saying that > annotations are very applicable for post-production image > description and description of other visual elements. Also, it > seems that accessibility has been an afterthought with existing > solutions. [292]← > 16:22:23 <karen> ...maintaining interface style > > [291] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Gerardo_Capiel > > [293]Karen Myers: ...maintaining interface style [294]← > 16:22:29 <karen> ...draw in white vs black > > [293] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [295]Karen Myers: ...draw in white vs black [296]← > 16:22:42 <karen> ...place a pop-up at this point so as not to cover up u > seful text > [297] > > [295] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [297] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > Karen Myers: ...place a pop-up at this point so as not to cover > up useful text [298]← > 16:22:56 <karen> ...those are related to the user experience, if not rel > ated to the user interface > [299] > > [299] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > Karen Myers: ...those are related to the user experience, if > not related to the user interface [300]← > 16:23:10 <karen> Suzanne: I would suggest that the accessibility task fo > rce read through and add small comments > > [301]Suzanne Taylor: I would suggest that the accessibility > task force read through and add small comments > 16:23:24 <karen> ...and then we add one additional use case which descri > bes the recommended functionality > > [301] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Suzanne_Taylor > > [302]Karen Myers: ...and then we add one additional use case > which describes the recommended functionality [303]← > [304]Karen Myers: ...or requirements [305]← > 16:23:41 <karen> ...we have an initial draft and could vet that and move > over to annotations area > > [302] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [304] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [306]Karen Myers: ...we have an initial draft and could vet > that and move over to annotations area [307]← > 16:23:54 <karen> Markus: in terms of the accessibility task force review > , what date can we set for you? > > [306] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [308]Markus Gylling: in terms of the accessibility task force > review, what date can we set for you? > 16:24:05 <karen> ...Any chance you can do this by next Monday, or is tha > t overly optimistic? > > [308] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > > [309]Karen Myers: ...Any chance you can do this by next Monday, > or is that overly optimistic? [310]← > 16:24:11 <karen> Gerardo: I can work on the plane > > [309] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [311]Gerardo Capiel: I can work on the plane > > [311] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Gerardo_Capiel > > [312]Richard Schwerdtfeger: I would like to look at it, but > have people in Austin this week > 16:24:33 <karen> ...so could not get to it until the weekend or early ne > xt week > [313] > > [312] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Richard_Schwerdtfeger > [313] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > Karen Myers: ...so could not get to it until the weekend or > early next week [314]← > 16:24:42 <karen> Suzanne: I would have trouble getting to it by the 3rd; > maybe the 5th > > [315]Suzanne Taylor: I would have trouble getting to it by the > 3rd; maybe the 5th > 16:24:47 <karen> Markus: ok, that sounds good > [316] > > [315] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Suzanne_Taylor > [316] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > > Markus Gylling: ok, that sounds good > 16:25:05 <karen> Action: Suzanne, Gerardo and Rich to complete accessibi > lity review by 4 February > > ACTION: Suzanne, Gerardo and Rich to complete accessibility > review by 4 February [317]← > 16:25:05 <trackbot> Error finding 'Suzanne,'. 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[319]← > 16:25:17 <karen> ack Bill > [320] > > [318] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/track/users%3E. > [320] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > Karen Myers: ack Bill [321]← > 16:25:28 <gcapiel> There's some discussion of this topic during an Acces > sibility Sprint which included Hypothes.is who has been involved in the > annotations work http://kefletcher.blogspot.com/2013/06/born-digital-bor > n-accessible-sprint.html?m=1 > > [322]Gerardo Capiel: There's some discussion of this topic > during an Accessibility Sprint which included Hypothes.is who > has been involved in the annotations work > [323]http://kefletcher.blogspot.com/2013/06/born-digital-born-a > ccessible-sprint.html?m=1 [324]← > 16:25:28 <karen> Bill: I put that on when Suzanne first commented > > [322] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Gerardo_Capiel > [323] > http://kefletcher.blogspot.com/2013/06/born-digital-born-accessible-sprint.html?m=1 > > [325]Bill Kasdorf: I put that on when Suzanne first commented > 16:25:39 <karen> ...there are also metadata implications for the annotat > ions spec > [326] > > [325] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Bill_Kasdorf > [326] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > Karen Myers: ...there are also metadata implications for the > annotations spec [327]← > 16:25:48 <karen> ...but our situation is the opposite of accessibility > > [328]Karen Myers: ...but our situation is the opposite of > accessibility [329]← > [330]Karen Myers: ...metadata should take into account the > finished state [331]←...rather than delay things [332]← > 16:26:13 <karen> ...metadata responds to use cases for implications > > [328] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [330] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [333]Karen Myers: ...metadata responds to use cases for > implications [334]← > 16:26:24 <karen> Rob: What do people think about scope of metadata? > [335] > > [333] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [335] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson > > Robert Sanderson: What do people think about scope of > metadata? > 16:26:34 <karen> Bill: you are involved intimately in both > > [336]Bill Kasdorf: you are involved intimately in both > 16:26:51 <karen> Rob: Should metadata task force discuss annotations for > metadata as well as publications, or both? > > [336] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Bill_Kasdorf > > [337]Robert Sanderson: Should metadata task force discuss > annotations for metadata as well as publications, or both? > 16:27:03 <karen> Markus: Bill? > > [337] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson > > [338]Markus Gylling: Bill? > 16:27:09 <karen> Bill: waiting for others to respond > > [338] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > > [339]Bill Kasdorf: waiting for others to respond > 16:27:15 <karen> ...I think there will be blurred lines there > > [339] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Bill_Kasdorf > > [340]Karen Myers: ...I think there will be blurred lines there > [341]← > 16:27:24 <karen> ...publications...whether regarding annotations or basi > c publication > > [340] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [342]Karen Myers: ...publications...whether regarding > annotations or basic publication [343]← > 16:27:34 <karen> ...we can responsibly address them after the annotation > issues are clarified > > [342] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [344]Karen Myers: ...we can responsibly address them after the > annotation issues are clarified [345]← > [346]Karen Myers: ...we would not be driving annotations use > cases, but some use cases could arise [347]← > 16:27:51 <karen> Markus: ok, good > > [344] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [346] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [348]Markus Gylling: ok, good > 16:27:55 <lizadaly> q? > > [348] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > > [349]Liza Daly: q? [350]← > 16:28:02 <azaroth> ack azaroth > > [349] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Liza_Daly > > [351]Robert Sanderson: ack azaroth [352]← > 16:28:17 <karen> Markus: in terms of timing > > [351] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson > > [353]Markus Gylling: in terms of timing > 16:28:28 <karen> ....by 5th the accessibility review is completed > > [353] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > > [354]Karen Myers: ....by 5th the accessibility review is > completed [355]← > 16:28:35 <karen> ...so we can target February 10 > > [354] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [356]Karen Myers: ...so we can target February 10 [357]← > 16:28:48 <karen> ...which would be our first opportunity for IG blessing > to have first draft for review > > [356] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [358]Karen Myers: ...which would be our first opportunity for > IG blessing to have first draft for review [359]← > 16:28:55 <karen> ...and review is not only for accessibility folks > > [358] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [360]Karen Myers: ...and review is not only for accessibility > folks [361]← > 16:29:05 <karen> ...please feel free to provide your input in the next w > eek > > [360] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [362]Karen Myers: ...please feel free to provide your input in > the next week [363]← > 16:29:07 <Zakim> -fjh > > [362] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > Zakim IRC Bot: -fjh [364]← > 16:29:16 <karen> ...Rob, anything you want to alert the IG on when we re > ad through this? > > [365]Karen Myers: ...Rob, anything you want to alert the IG on > when we read through this? [366]← > 16:29:24 <Zakim> +[IPcaller] > > [365] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] [367]← > 16:29:26 <karen> ...weak areas, potential blind spots that you have been > thinkign about? > > [368]Karen Myers: ...weak areas, potential blind spots that you > have been thinkign about? [369]← > 16:29:29 <fjh> zakim, IPcaller is me > > [368] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [370]Frederick Hirsch: zakim, IPcaller is me [371]← > 16:29:29 <Zakim> +fjh; got it > > [370] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Frederick_Hirsch > > Zakim IRC Bot: +fjh; got it [372]← > 16:29:31 <karen> Rob: I don't think so > > [373]Robert Sanderson: I don't think so > 16:29:43 <karen> ...the later use cases are weaker than the earlier ones > just due to use case fatigue > > [373] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson > > [374]Karen Myers: ...the later use cases are weaker than the > earlier ones just due to use case fatigue [375]← > 16:29:49 <karen> ...any comments and suggestions are very welcome > > [374] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [376]Karen Myers: ...any comments and suggestions are very > welcome [377]← > 16:29:56 <karen> Markus: the queue is empty > > [376] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [378]Markus Gylling: the queue is empty > 16:30:11 <karen> ...if there are not more comments on annotations, we ar > e ready to move onto the next agenda item > > [378] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > > [379]Karen Myers: ...if there are not more comments on > annotations, we are ready to move onto the next agenda item > [380]← > [381]Karen Myers: ...I'm glad we have Gerardo and Suzanne here > [382]← > 16:30:30 <karen> ...as the next item relates to accessibility > > [379] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [381] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [383]Karen Myers: ...as the next item relates to accessibility > [384]← > [385]Karen Myers: ...and we have Rich here as well [386]← > 16:30:39 <karen> ...Rich, perhaps you can summarize > > [383] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [385] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [387]Karen Myers: ...Rich, perhaps you can summarize > [388]Richard Schwerdtfeger: one of things we agreed to do is to > create some modules off of ARIA to apply additional semantics > to assistive technologies through browsers > 16:31:09 <karen> ...make structural semantics available through ARIA > > [387] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [388] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Richard_Schwerdtfeger > > [389]Karen Myers: ...make structural semantics available > through ARIA [390]← > [391]Karen Myers: ...we would need to have some people from > this IG part of that effort [392]← > 16:31:32 <karen> ...and coordinate with main WG and collaborate > > [389] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [391] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [393]Karen Myers: ...and coordinate with main WG and > collaborate [394]← > [395]Karen Myers:...We would start with structural semantics > [396]← > 16:31:45 <karen> ...we don't want to slow down the work others are doing > > [393] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [395] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [397]Karen Myers:: ...we don't want to slow down the work > others are doing > 16:31:56 <karen> ...Would be great if someone could volunteer to do the > editing > > [397] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [398]Karen Myers: ...Would be great if someone could volunteer > to do the editing [399]← > 16:32:00 <karen> ...does that summarzie? > > [398] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [400]Karen Myers: ...does that summarzie? > [401]Markus Gylling: yes; what timeline? > [402]Richard Schwerdtfeger: Depends how fast we move and get > things implemented > 16:32:27 <karen> ...you have done most of work, you have defined semanti > cs > [403] > > [400] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [401] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > [402] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Richard_Schwerdtfeger > [403] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > Karen Myers: ...you have done most of work, you have defined > semantics [404]← > 16:32:33 <karen> ...main thing is to get out to browsers > > [405]Karen Myers: ...main thing is to get out to browsers > [406]← > 16:32:41 <karen> ...biggest thing is getting to CR > > [405] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [407]Karen Myers: ...biggest thing is getting to CR [408]← > 16:32:46 <karen> ...we're looking for 1.1 by end of next eyar > > [407] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [409]Karen Myers: ...we're looking for 1.1 by end of next year > [410]← > 16:33:00 <karen> ...I don't know if we can do it in that time frame, but > I'm willing to work with people to get that to happen > > [409] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [411]Karen Myers: ...I don't know if we can do it in that time > frame, but I'm willing to work with people to get that to > happen > [412]Karen Myers: ...I work with many assistive technology > vendors > [413]Gerardo Capiel: Some of this also came out [414]← > 16:33:21 <karen> ...from @ > > [411] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [412] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [413] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Gerardo_Capiel > > [415]Karen Myers: ...from @ [416]← > 16:33:29 <karen> ...when we had discussion with SVG WG > > [415] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [417]Karen Myers: ...when we had discussion with SVG WG [418]← > 16:33:33 <karen> ...graphs in SVG > > [417] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [419]Karen Myers: ...graphs in SVG [420]← > 16:33:39 <karen> ...need for additional ARIA roles came up > > [419] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [421]Karen Myers: ...need for additional ARIA roles came up > [422]← > 16:33:45 <karen> ...Rich and Doug Schepers know about it > [423] > > [421] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [423] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > Karen Myers: ...Rich and Doug Schepers know about it [424]← > 16:33:52 <karen> ...We are planning a call at EDUPUB2 > > [425]Karen Myers: ...We are planning a call at EDUPUB2 > [426]Richard Schwerdtfeger: We also agreed to form a module for > graphics > > [425] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [426] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Richard_Schwerdtfeger > > 16:34:09 <karen> ...as long as that's not an issue > > [427]Karen Myers: ...as long as that's not an issue [428]← > 16:34:12 <karen> Gerardo: perfect > > [427] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [429]Gerardo Capiel: perfect > [430]Markus Gylling: We have @ from ETS > 16:34:27 <karen> ...is that possible for 1.1? > > [429] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Gerardo_Capiel > [430] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > > [431]Karen Myers: ...is that possible for 1.1? [432]← > [433]Karen Myers: we are full up [434]← > 16:34:41 <karen> ...I would have to take that back to the working group > [435] > > [431] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [433] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [435] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > Karen Myers: ...I would have to take that back to the working > group [436]← > 16:34:46 <karen> ...were you thinking TI? > > [437]Karen Myers: ...were you thinking TI? [438]← > 16:34:58 <karen> Markus: Mark Hakenen and you, Laura have been thinking > > [437] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [439]Markus Gylling: Mark Hakenen and you, Laura have been > thinking > 16:35:04 <karen> Laura: Mark has been working with you > > [439] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > > [440]Laura Fowler: Mark has been working with you > 16:35:10 <karen> ...and will be talking about ARIA at EDUPUB > > [440] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Laura_Fowler > > [441]Karen Myers: ...and will be talking about ARIA at EDUPUB > [442]← > 16:35:15 <karen> Markus: right > > [441] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [443]Markus Gylling: right > [444]Laura Fowler: I don't know how far he has gotten with that > 16:35:26 <gcapiel> To add to minutes, I'm referring to using ARIA roles > to aid SVG sonification > > [443] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > [444] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Laura_Fowler > > [445]Gerardo Capiel: To add to minutes, I'm referring to using > ARIA roles to aid SVG sonification [446]← > 16:35:29 <karen> ...or how ready he would be > > [445] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Gerardo_Capiel > > [447]Karen Myers: ...or how ready he would be [448]← > 16:35:44 <karen> Markus: we hope to clarify parts of that at EDUPUB2 > > [447] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [449]Markus Gylling: we hope to clarify parts of that at > EDUPUB2 > [450]Karen Myers: ...if I understand there are two modules > agreed [451]← > 16:36:02 <karen> ...one for graphics and one for basic ebooks semantics > > [449] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > [450] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [452]Karen Myers: ...one for graphics and one for basic ebooks > semantics [453]← > [454]Karen Myers: ...your call for participation and editor is > for both? [455]← > [456]Karen Myers:...or epub ones? > [457]Richard Schwerdtfeger: I want to meet with Doug and > Gerardo at EDUPUB 2 > 16:36:35 <karen> ...I'm chairing accessibility workshop > > [452] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [454] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [456] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [457] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Richard_Schwerdtfeger > > [458]Karen Myers: ...I'm chairing accessibility workshop > M[459]arkus Gylling: If anyone wants to sign up for this > module, make yourself heard > 16:36:58 <Suzanne> I will volunteer to participate > > [458] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [459] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > > [460]Suzanne Taylor: I will volunteer to participate [461]← > 16:37:00 <karen> ...I plan to join but would love to have more people sh > owing up > > [460] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Suzanne_Taylor > > [462]Karen Myers: ...I plan to join but would love to have more > people showing up [463]← > 16:37:15 <karen> ...Rich, anything else from TF meeting last week? > > [462] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [464]Karen Myers: ...Rich, anything else from TF meeting last > week? > [465]Richard Schwerdtfeger: we're looking at test cases and the > 2.0 timeline as well > 16:37:34 <karen> Markus: seeing that we have a little extra time > > [464] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [465] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Richard_Schwerdtfeger > > [466]Markus Gylling: seeing that we have a little extra time > 16:37:59 <karen> ...as most of you know, we use the epub colon type attr > ibutes 16:37:50 <karen> ...One of things that's going on, is that IDP > F and epub is looking for a more native solution to express structural s > emantics[467]Karen > Myers: ...One of things > that's going on, is that IDPF and epub is looking for a more nativ > e > solution to express structural semantics [468]← > > [466] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > [467] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [469] > > [469] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > Karen Myers: ...as most of you know, we use the epub colon type > attributes [470]← > 16:38:17 <karen> ...we are exploring options to move away from that, not > name-space based, but something more native based to browser stack > > [471]Karen Myers: ...we are exploring options to move away from > that, not name-space based, but something more native based to > browser stack [472]← > 16:38:20 <karen> ...a couple solutions > > [471] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [473]Karen Myers: ...a couple solutions [474]← > 16:38:26 <karen> ..have been suggestions > [475] > > [473] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [475] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > Karen Myers:..have been suggestions [476]← > 16:38:34 <karen> ...one from Robin Berjon, editor of HTML5 > > [477]Karen Myers: ...one from Robin Berjon, editor of HTML5 > [478]← > [479]Karen Myers:...another option is to make the rule > attributes less @ centric and more generic [480]← > 16:39:05 <karen> ...Is that right Rich? > > [477] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [479] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [481]Karen Myers: ...Is that right Rich? > [482]Richard Schwerdtfeger: yes, as long as it does not break > accessibility > 16:39:28 <karen> ...services...then I don't see an issue > > [481] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [482] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Richard_Schwerdtfeger > > [483]Karen Myers: ...services...then I don't see an issue > [484]Markus Gylling: this means there are two avenues to look > into > 16:39:42 <karen> ...this IG is only partially involved here > > [483] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [484] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > > [485]Karen Myers: ...this IG is only partially involved here > [486]Karen Myers:...serving as a bridge to these discussions > [487]← > 16:40:00 <karen> ...but sounds more like a discussion that needs to happ > en with HTML5 folks and the TF > > [485] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [486] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [488]Karen Myers: ...but sounds more like a discussion that > needs to happen with HTML5 folks and the TF [489]← > 16:40:08 <karen> ...any more questions regarding PF and roles? > > [488] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [490]Karen Myers: ...any more questions regarding PF and roles? > 16:40:12 <karen> ...great > [491] > > [490] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [491] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > Karen Myers: ...great [492]← > 16:40:22 <karen> ...we'll see, Rich, how it goes with the call for parti > cipation > > [493]Karen Myers: ...we'll see, Rich, how it goes with the call > for participation [494]← > 16:40:32 <karen> ...we'll try perhaps to gather people to sign up for ne > xt week's call > > [493] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [495]Karen Myers: ...we'll try perhaps to gather people to sign > up for next week's call > 16:40:36 <karen> ...with a week to think about this > > [495] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [496]Karen Myers: ...with a week to think about this > [497]Richard Schwerdtfeger: that's perfect [timeline] > [498]Markus Gylling: final agenda item is the focus task force > for next meeting > 16:41:02 <karen> ...I wrote to two of them > > [496] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [497] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Richard_Schwerdtfeger > [498] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > > [499]Karen Myers:: ...I wrote to two of them [500]← > 16:41:12 <karen> ...I see some in a pretty early state > > [499] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [501]Karen Myers: ...I see some in a pretty early state [502]← > 16:41:15 <karen> ...such as metadata > > [501] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [503]Karen Myers:...such as metadata [504]← > 16:41:23 <karen> ...Bill, Brady, what do you think? > > [503] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [505]Karen Myers: ...Bill, Brady, what do you think? [506]← > 16:41:36 <karen> Bill: I would be happy to next week focus on metadata i > f group wants to do that > [507] > > [505] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [507] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Bill_Kasdorf > > Bill Kasdorf: I would be happy to next week focus on metadata > if group wants to do that > 16:41:45 <karen> ...Ivan will be on call next week; hope Madi would be a > s well > > [508]Karen Myers:...Ivan will be on call next week; hope Madi > would be as well [509]← > 16:41:57 <karen> ...It did just get started up > > [508] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [510]Karen Myers: ...It did just get started up [511]← > 16:42:11 <karen> ...if we devote next week's meeting, we should avoid ge > tting into specifics, and focus on scope > > [510] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [512]Karen Myers: ...if we devote next week's meeting, we > should avoid getting into specifics, and focus on scope [513]← > 16:42:22 <karen> ...it's easy to get into the weeds in the metadata disc > ussions > > [512] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [514]Karen Myers: ...it's easy to get into the weeds in the > metadata discussions [515]← > 16:42:28 <karen> ...what became immediately clear on wiki discussions > > [514] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [516]Karen Myers:: ...what became immediately clear on wiki > discussions [517]← > [518]Karen Myers: ...is the importance of emphasizing the what > rather than the how [519]← > 16:42:41 <karen> ...the mechanisms and solutions > > [516] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [518] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [520]Karen Myers: ...the mechanisms and solutions [521]← > 16:42:50 <karen> ...lots of details about metadata vocabularies > > [520] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [522]Karen Myers: ...lots of details about metadata > vocabularies [523]← > 16:42:55 <karen> Brady: on the pagination side > > [522] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [524]Brady Duga: on the pagination side > 16:43:02 <karen> ...I don't remember agreeing to head this group > > [524] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Brady_Duga > > [525]Karen Myers: ...I don't remember agreeing to head this > group [526]← > 16:43:09 <karen> ...I may have been nominated for it > > [525] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [527]Karen Myers: ...I may have been nominated for it [528]← > 16:43:18 <karen> ...I am editing the wiki with behavioral adaptations > > [527] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [529]Karen Myers: ...I am editing the wiki with behavioral > adaptations [530]← > 16:43:29 <karen> ...but don't recall heading that group > > [529] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [531]Karen Myers: ...but don't recall heading that group [532]← > 16:43:31 <karen> Markus: that is right > > [531] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [533]Markus Gylling: that is right > 16:43:39 <karen> ...you took action to add DOM pagination > > [533] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > > [534]Karen Myers: ...you took action to add DOM pagination > [535]← > [536]Karen Myers:...I am to blame for elevating you to task > force lead [537]← > 16:43:49 <brady_duga> Sorry, deadzone > > [534] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [536] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [538]Brady Duga: Sorry, deadzone [539]← > 16:43:52 <brady_duga> I dropped > > [538] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Brady_Duga > > [540]Brady Duga: I dropped [541]← > 16:43:54 <karen> ...this is an important area > > [540] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Brady_Duga > > [542]Karen Myers: ...this is an important area [543]← > 16:44:07 <karen> ...even if we change the task force lead to someone els > e, we still need to get going > > [542] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [544]Karen Myers: ...even if we change the task force lead to > someone else, we still need to get going [545]← > 16:44:16 <karen> Bill: I am happy to have call focus on metadata > > [544] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [546]Bill Kasdorf: I am happy to have call focus on metadata > 16:44:24 <karen> ...we have a framework for discussion on the wiki > > [546] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Bill_Kasdorf > > [547]Karen Myers: ...we have a framework for discussion on the > wiki [548]← > [549]Karen Myers:...but if next week is better used for @ I am > happy to defer [550]← > 16:44:51 <karen> Markus: I think we are good to go with metadata next we > ek > > [547] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [549] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [551]Markus Gylling: I think we are good to go with metadata > next week > 16:44:59 <karen> ...and Brady and I can sort things out on pagination > [552] > > [551] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > [552] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > Karen Myers: ...and Brady and I can sort things out on > pagination [553]← > 16:45:07 <karen> Brady: I will be adding some stuff to the wiki > > [554]Brady Duga: I will be adding some stuff to the wiki > 16:45:20 <karen> ...will be a strength to that section and I'll particip > ate in that group > > [554] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Brady_Duga > > [555]Karen Myers: ...will be a strength to that section and > I'll participate in that group [556]← > 16:45:23 <karen> ...On a side note > > [555] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [557]Karen Myers: ...On a side note [558]← > 16:45:33 <karen> ...adding something to wiki, we don't have reading syst > em authors there > > [557] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [559]Karen Myers: ...adding something to wiki, we don't have > reading system authors there [560]← > 16:45:46 <karen> Markus: that is still open-ended > > [559] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [561]Markus Gylling: that is still open-ended > [562]Karen Myers: ...if you find yourself in corner, feel free > to add it [563]← > 16:46:04 <karen> Brady: just add it and it appears? > > [561] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > [562] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [564]Brady Duga: just add it and it appears? > 16:46:05 <karen> Markus: yes > > [564] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Brady_Duga > > [565]Markus Gylling: yes > 16:46:12 <karen> ...I think we are settled and done for the day? > > [565] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > > [566]Karen Myers: ...I think we are settled and done for the > day? [567]← > 16:46:16 <karen> ...Any other business? > > [566] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [568]Karen Myers: ...Any other business? [569]← > 16:46:21 <karen> ...super > > [568] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [570]Karen Myers: ...super [571]← > 16:46:30 <karen> ...please recall your review of the annotations collect > ions warmly welcome > > [570] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [572]Karen Myers:...please recall your review of the > annotations collections warmly welcome [573]← > 16:46:45 <karen> ...Suzanne, Rich and Gerardo will do a dedicated review > from an accessibility perspective > > [572] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [574]Karen Myers: ...Suzanne, Rich and Gerardo will do a > dedicated review from an accessibility perspective > [575]Richard Schwerdtfeger: Are there any other aspects of > annotation being included? > 16:47:02 <karen> ...I saw a mark > > [574] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [575] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Richard_Schwerdtfeger > > [576]Karen Myers: ...I saw a mark [577]← > 16:47:04 <Zakim> -duga > > [576] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > Zakim IRC Bot: -duga [578]← > 16:47:11 <karen> ...are you referencing mark element in HTML5? > > [579]Karen Myers: ...are you referencing mark element in HTML5? > [580]← > 16:47:19 <karen> Markus: Maybe you are not aware of the open annotation > CG > > [579] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [581]Markus Gylling: Maybe you are not aware of the open > annotation CG > 16:47:23 <karen> ...you mentioned at the PF call > [582] > > [581] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > [582] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > Karen Myers: ...you mentioned at the PF call [583]← > 16:47:29 <azaroth> http://www.w3.org/community/openannotation/ > > [584]Robert Sanderson: > [585]http://www.w3.org/community/openannotation/ [586]← > 16:47:31 <mgylling> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/UseCase_Directory#Soc > ial_Reading_and_Annotations > > [584] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson > [585] http://www.w3.org/community/openannotation/ > > [587]Markus Gylling: > [588]http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/UseCase_Directory#Social_Re > ading_and_Annotations [589]← > 16:47:34 <karen> Markus: Rob Sanderson from this group is co-chair of th > at > > [587] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > [588] > http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/UseCase_Directory#Social_Reading_and_Annotations > > [590]Markus Gylling: Rob Sanderson from this group is co-chair > of that > 16:47:40 <Zakim> -fjh > > [590] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > > Zakim IRC Bot: -fjh [591]← > 16:47:45 <karen> ...and is working with W3C staff to propose a rec track > version of open annotations > > [592]Karen Myers: ...and is working with W3C staff to propose a > rec track version of open annotations > [593]Karen Myers: ...and epub also working on integrating > [594]← > 16:47:58 <karen> ...you may want to read in on that > [595] > > [592] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [593] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > [595] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > Karen Myers: ...you may want to read in on that [596]← > [597]Karen Myers:...good opportunity for an inverted long desk > [598]← > 16:48:21 <karen> Rob: if there is anything I can do to help, shoot me an > email; happy to do what I can > > [597] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > [599]Robert Sanderson: if there is anything I can do to help, > shoot me an email; happy to do what I can > M[600]arkus Gylling: any other questions? > 16:48:34 <karen> ...thank you for today > [601] > > [599] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson > [600] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling > [601] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > Karen Myers: ...thank you for today [602]← > 16:48:38 <karen> ...thank you, Karen for scribing > > [603]Karen Myers: ...thank you, Karen for scribing > 16:48:39 <Zakim> -gcapiel > > [603] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > Zakim IRC Bot: -gcapiel [604]← > 16:48:40 <Zakim> -lizadaly > > Zakim IRC Bot: -lizadaly [605]← > 16:48:40 <Zakim> -mgylling > > Zakim IRC Bot: -mgylling [606]← > 16:48:41 <Zakim> - +1.646.336.aabb > > Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.646.336.aabb [607]← > 16:48:42 <Zakim> -dshkolnik > > Zakim IRC Bot: -dshkolnik [608]← > 16:48:42 <Zakim> -Vlad > > Zakim IRC Bot: -Vlad [609]← > 16:48:42 <Zakim> -Bill_Kasdorf > > Zakim IRC Bot: -Bill_Kasdorf [610]← > 16:48:43 <karen> ...meeting adjourned > [611] > > [611] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers > > Karen Myers:...meeting adjourned > [612]Richard Schwerdtfeger: (handle)42@gmail.com > 17:05:01 <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, Marilyn, in DPUB_DP > UBIG()11:00AM > __________________________________________________________ > > [612] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Richard_Schwerdtfeger > >
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