- From: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 16:52:17 +0100
- To: Thierry Michel <tmichel@w3.org>
- Cc: Luc Audrain <LAUDRAIN@hachette-livre.fr>, W3C Digital Publishing IG <public-digipub-ig@w3.org>
- Message-Id: <E910A130-58EF-4801-ADB3-0C64A4F44535@w3.org>
I changed the URI on https://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Meetings#2014 Ivan On 28 Jan 2014, at 16:45 , Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org> wrote: > Luc, > For some reason the server does not do content negociation. > Seems it needs the .html extension > > therefore try full URI > http://www.w3.org/2013/dpub-IG-minutes/2014-01-27.html > > it should be fine ... > > Thierry > > On 28/01/2014 15:44, AUDRAIN LUC wrote: >> Hi Thierry, >> Minutes are badly formatted and cannot be read. Could it be fixed? >> Thanks, >> Luc >> >> -----Message d'origine----- >> De : Thierry MICHEL [mailto:tmichel@w3.org] >> Envoyé : mardi 28 janvier 2014 10:52 >> À : W3C Digital Publishing IG >> Objet : [Minutes] 2014-01-27 Digital Publishing Interest Group Teleconference >> >> Hi all, >> >> The minutes of the Digital Publishing Interest Group Teleconference >> dated 2014-01-27 are now available at >> >> http://www.w3.org/2013/dpub-IG-minutes/2014-01-27 >> >> These public minutes are also linked from the dpub wiki >> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Meetings >> >> Also find these minutes in a text version following, for your convenience. >> >> Best, >> >> Thierry Michel >> >> ---------------------------- >> >> >> Digital Publishing Interest Group Teleconference >> >> Minutes of 27 January 2014 >> >> Agenda >> [1]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-digipub-ig >> /2014Jan/0033.html >> >> [1] >> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-digipub-ig/2014Jan/0033.html >> >> Present >> [2]Alan Stearns, [3]Bill Kasdorf, [4]Brady Duga, [5]Dave >> Cramer, [6]Dmitry Shkolnik, [7]Frederick Hirsch, >> [8]Gerardo Capiel, [9]Ivan Herman, [10]Jean Kaplansky, >> [11]Julie Morris, [12]Laura Fowler, [13]Liam Quin, >> [14]Liza Daly, [15]Luc Audrain, [16]Markus Gylling, >> [17]Phil Madans, [18]Richard Schwerdtfeger, [19]Robert >> Sanderson, [20]Suzanne Taylor, [21]Thierry Michel, >> [22]Tom De Nies, [23]Karen Myers, [24]Vladimir >> Levantovsky >> >> [2] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Alan_Stearns >> [3] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Bill_Kasdorf >> [4] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Brady_Duga >> [5] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Dave_Cramer >> [6] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Dmitry_Shkolnik >> [7] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Frederick_Hirsch >> [8] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Gerardo_Capiel >> [9] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman >> [10] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Jean_Kaplansky >> [11] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Julie_Morris >> [12] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Laura_Fowler >> [13] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Liam_Quin >> [14] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Liza_Daly >> [15] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Luc_Audrain >> [16] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> [17] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Phil_Madans >> [18] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Richard_Schwerdtfeger >> [19] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson >> [20] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Suzanne_Taylor >> [21] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Thierry_Michel >> [22] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Tom_De_Nies >> [23] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [24] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Vladimir_Levantovsky >> >> Regrets >> [25]Dave Cramer, [26]Ivan Herman, [27]Alan Stearns, >> [28]Liam Quin, [29]Luc Audrain, [30]Phil Madans, [31]Tom >> De Nies >> >> [25] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Dave_Cramer >> [26] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman >> [27] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Alan_Stearns >> [28] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Liam_Quin >> [29] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Luc_Audrain >> [30] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Phil_Madans >> [31] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Tom_De_Nies >> >> Scribe >> [32]Karen Myers >> >> [32] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> IRC Log >> [33]Original >> >> [33] http://www.w3.org/2014/01/27-dpub-irc >> >> Resolutions >> None. >> >> Topics >> >> 1. [34]Approval of previous meeting minutes >> 2. [35]Annotations TF: planning for publishing >> requirements as Note >> >> [36]Liza Daly: Yes [37]← >> 15:59:44 <karen> zakim, code? >> >> [36] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Liza_Daly >> >> [38]Markus Gylling: Karen, ok to scribe? >> [39]← >> 16:00:30 <Zakim> +duga >> >> [38] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> >> Zakim IRC Bot: +duga [40]← >> 16:00:38 <Zakim> +??P21 >> >> Zakim IRC Bot: +??P21 [41]← >> 16:00:47 <Zakim> +Karen_Myers >> >> Zakim IRC Bot: +Karen_Myers [42]← >> 16:00:52 <tmichel> zakim, ??P21 is me >> >> [43]Thierry Michel: zakim, ??P21 is me [44]← >> 16:00:52 <Zakim> +tmichel; got it >> >> [43] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Thierry_Michel >> >> Zakim IRC Bot: +tmichel; got it [45]← >> 16:01:23 <mgylling> zakim, who is here >> >> [46]Markus Gylling: zakim, who is here [47]← >> 16:01:23 <Zakim> mgylling, you need to end that query with '?' >> >> [46] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> >> Zakim IRC Bot: mgylling, you need to end that query with '?' >> [48]← >> 16:01:35 <mgylling> zakim, aadd is LFowler >> >> [49]Markus Gylling: zakim, aadd is LFowler [50]← >> 16:01:35 <Zakim> +LFowler; got it >> >> [49] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> >> Zakim IRC Bot: +LFowler; got it [51]← >> 16:01:41 <tmichel> zakim, who is here ? >> >> [52]Thierry Michel: zakim, who is here ? [53]← >> 16:01:41 <Zakim> On the phone I see Rich_Schwerdtfeger, lizadaly, mgylli >> ng, azaroth, +1.646.336.aabb (muted), LFowler, Vlad, duga, tmichel, Kare >> n_Myers >> >> [52] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Thierry_Michel >> >> Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Rich_Schwerdtfeger, lizadaly, >> mgylling, azaroth, +1.646.336.aabb (muted), LFowler, Vlad, >> duga, tmichel, Karen_Myers [54]← >> 16:01:43 <Zakim> On IRC I see gcapiel, JeanK, benjaminsko, Vlad, fjh, az >> aroth, LFowler, liza, Zakim, RRSAgent, brady_duga, richardschwerdtfeger, >> tmichel, mgylling, karen, liam, astearns, plinss, >> >> Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see gcapiel, JeanK, benjaminsko, Vlad, >> fjh, azaroth, LFowler, liza, Zakim, RRSAgent, brady_duga, >> richardschwerdtfeger, tmichel, mgylling, karen, liam, astearns, >> plinss, [55]← >> 16:01:43 <Zakim> ... trackbot >> >> Zakim IRC Bot: ... trackbot [56]← >> 16:02:01 <tmichel> wHO IS 1.646.336.aabb , >> >> [57]Thierry Michel: who is 1.646.336.aabb , [58]← >> 16:02:22 <Zakim> +??P31 >> >> [57] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Thierry_Michel >> >> Zakim IRC Bot: +??P31 [59]← >> 16:02:24 <Zakim> +JeanKaplansky >> >> Zakim IRC Bot: +JeanKaplansky [60]← >> 16:02:28 <Zakim> +AWK >> >> Zakim IRC Bot: +AWK [61]← >> 16:02:35 <Zakim> -Karen_Myers >> >> 16:02:50 <Zakim> +Marilyn >> >> Zakim IRC Bot: +Marilyn [62]← >> 16:02:53 <gcapiel> Zakim, ??P31 is me >> >> [63]Gerardo Capiel: Zakim, ??P31 is me [64]← >> 16:02:53 <tmichel> IS ??P31 JeanKaplansky OR Karen_Myers , >> [65] >> >> [63] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Gerardo_Capiel >> [65] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Thierry_Michel >> >> Thierry Michel: is ??P31 Jean Kaplansky or Karen Myers , [66]← >> 16:02:54 <Zakim> +gcapiel; got it >> >> Zakim IRC Bot: +gcapiel; got it [67]← >> 16:03:16 <dshkolnik> Zakim, AWK is dshkolnik >> >> [68]Dmitry Shkolnik: Zakim, AWK is dshkolnik [69]← >> 16:03:16 <Zakim> +dshkolnik; got it >> >> [68] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Dmitry_Shkolnik >> >> Zakim IRC Bot: +dshkolnik; got it [70]← >> 16:03:18 <Zakim> +Karen_Myers >> >> Zakim IRC Bot: +Karen_Myers [71]← >> 16:03:21 <Zakim> +[IPcaller] >> >> Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] [72]← >> 16:03:23 <fjh> zakim, IPcaller is me >> >> [73]Frederick Hirsch: zakim, IPcaller is me [74]← >> 16:03:23 <Zakim> +fjh; got it >> >> [73] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Frederick_Hirsch >> >> Zakim IRC Bot: +fjh; got it [75]← >> 16:03:29 <fjh> Present+ Frederick_Hirsch >> 16:03:47 <karen> Markus: Let's get going >> >> [76]Markus Gylling: Let's get going >> [77]Julie Morris: I'm at a 646 number >> 16:04:03 <mgylling> Zakim, aabb is Julie Morris >> >> [76] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> [77] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Julie_Morris >> >> [78]Markus Gylling: Zakim, aabb is Julie Morris [79]← >> 16:04:03 <Zakim> I don't understand 'aabb is Julie Morris', mgylling >> >> [78] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> >> Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'aabb is Julie Morris', >> mgylling [80]← >> 16:04:06 <Zakim> + +1.917.447.aaee >> >> Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.917.447.aaee [81]← >> 16:04:29 <karen> Markus: Thierry, if you can assign that to Julie >> [82] >> >> [82] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> Karen Myers: ...Welcome everyone [83]← >> 16:04:41 <mgylling> regrets: Dave Cramer, Ivan Herman, Alan Stearns, Lia >> m Quin, Luc Audrain, Phil Madans, Tom De Nies >> 16:04:41 <tmichel> Zakim, 1.646.336.aabb is Julie Morris >> >> [84]Thierry Michel: Zakim, 1.646.336.aabb is Julie Morris [85]← >> 16:04:41 <Zakim> I don't understand '1.646.336.aabb is Julie Morris', tm >> ichel >> >> [84] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Thierry_Michel >> >> Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand '1.646.336.aabb is Julie >> Morris', tmichel [86]← >> 16:04:41 <karen> ...We have Karen scribing today >> >> [87]Karen Myers: ...We have Karen scribing today >> [88]Karen Myers: ...and registering regrets [89]← >> [90]Karen Myers: ...Short agenda for today [91]← >> 16:05:03 <karen> ...As you know, we are running these focused themes wit >> h the task forces >> >> [87] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [88] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [90] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [92]Karen Myers: ...As you know, we are running these focused >> themes with the task forces [93]← >> 16:05:05 <Zakim> +Bill_Kasdorf >> >> [92] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> Zakim IRC Bot: +Bill_Kasdorf [94]← >> 16:05:16 <karen> ...We don't have a new task force today because we have >> an urgent matter to cover annotations >> >> [95]Karen Myers: ...We don't have a new task force today >> because we have an urgent matter to cover annotations [96]← >> [97]Karen Myers: ...But on this call we'll decide what task >> force to review next week [98]← >> 16:05:34 <karen> ...We have one person who has not yet made it to our ca >> lls >> >> [95] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [97] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [99]Karen Myers: ...We have one person who has not yet made it >> to our calls [100]← >> [101]Karen Myers: ...Rich, can you say a few words? [102]← >> 16:05:47 <karen> Rich: I am CTO for IBM software >> >> [99] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [101] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [103]Richard Schwerdtfeger: I am CTO for Accessibility for IBM >> software >> B[104]ill Kasdorf: has Julie from BISG been introduced? [105]← >> 16:05:52 <karen> ...and chair the ARIA standards effort >> >> [103] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Richard_Schwerdtfeger >> [104] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Bill_Kasdorf >> >> [106]Karen Myers: ...and chair the ARIA standards effort [107]← >> 16:06:01 <tmichel> topic: Approval of previous meeting minutes >> >> [106] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> 1. Approval of previous meeting minutes >> >> 16:06:14 <karen> Markus: Last week's minutes are published >> >> [108]Markus Gylling: Last week's minutes are published >> 16:06:19 <karen> ...any objections to accepting them? >> >> [108] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> >> [109]Karen Myers: ...any objections to accepting them? [110]← >> 16:06:26 <richardschwerdtfeger> s/CTO/CTO for Accessibility/ >> 16:06:33 <tmichel> topic: Annotations TF: planning for publishing requir >> ements as Note >> >> [109] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> 2. Annotations TF: planning for publishing requirements as Note >> >> 16:06:51 <karen> Markus: there is work underway to propose the formation >> of a working track working group >> >> [111]Markus Gylling: there is work underway to propose the >> formation of a working track working group >> 16:07:01 <karen> ...of the open annotations community group >> [112] >> >> [111] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> [112] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> Karen Myers: ...of the open annotations community group [113]← >> 16:07:15 <karen> ...we are thinking to fast track the requirements so th >> ey can be used and referenced by the WG >> >> [114]Karen Myers: ...we are thinking to fast track the >> requirements so they can be used and referenced by the WG >> [115]← >> 16:07:26 <karen> ...anything else, Rob, in terms of context? >> >> [114] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [116]Karen Myers: ...anything else, Rob, in terms of context? >> [117]← >> 16:07:35 <karen> Rob: in order to ensure all the requirements in the IG >> are met >> >> [116] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> >> [118]Robert Sanderson: in order to ensure all the requirements >> of the IG are met >> [119]Karen Myers: ...in the WG process [120]← >> 16:07:58 <karen> ...would be great to have the usec cases if not entirel >> y finished, at least be a lot more formalized than they are now >> >> [118] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson >> [119] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [121]Karen Myers: ...would be great to have the usec cases if >> not entirely finished, at least be a lot more formalized than >> they are now >> [122]Markus Gylling: To do this, the first thing to keep in >> mind >> 16:08:13 <karen> ...is that this is the process all the task forces will >> go through >> >> [121] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [122] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> >> [123]Karen Myers: ...is that this is the process all the task >> forces will go through [124]← >> 16:08:23 <azaroth> s/in the IG/of the IG/ >> 16:08:25 <karen> ...Use of the wiki is in the initial stage of the Task >> Force work >> >> [123] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [125]Karen Myers: ...Use of the wiki is in the initial stage of >> the Task Force work [126]← >> 16:08:29 <azaroth> s/and the WG/in the WG/ >> 16:08:36 <karen> ...we expect taht they will formalize in Note documents >> [127] >> >> [125] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [127] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> Karen Myers: ...we expect that they will formalize in Note >> documents [128]← >> 16:08:49 <karen> ...It looks like annotations task force will take the n >> ext steps in this sequence first >> >> [129]Karen Myers: ...It looks like annotations task force will >> take the next steps in this sequence first [130]← >> [131]Karen Myers: ...but we want to clarify with the sequence >> first [132]← >> 16:09:03 <karen> ...And hope Karen can help us >> >> [129] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [131] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [133]Karen Myers: ...And hope Karen can help us [134]← >> 16:09:17 <karen> ...basically I think there is the following steps >> >> [133] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [135]Karen Myers: ...basically I think there is the following >> steps [136]← >> 16:09:21 <karen> ...let me throw them out here >> >> [135] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [137]Karen Myers: ...let me throw them out here [138]← >> 16:09:34 <karen> ...First is that we as an IG go over the wiki and fill >> in any blanks or missing areas that we can find >> >> [137] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [139]Karen Myers:: ...First is that we as an IG go over the >> wiki and fill in any blanks or missing areas that we can find >> [140]← >> 16:09:46 <karen> ...Second step is that the task force produces a first >> version of the Note document >> >> [139] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [141]Karen Myers: ...Second step is that the task force >> produces a first version of the Note document [142]← >> 16:09:51 <karen> ...and we abandon the wiki at that stage >> >> [141] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [143]Karen Myers: ...and we abandon the wiki at that stage >> [144]← >> 16:10:03 <karen> ...and likely use Respect and JS to produce a Note >> >> [143] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [145]Karen Myers: ...and likely use ReSpec JS to produce a Note >> [146]← >> [147]Karen Myers: ...at that point, it is the IG's first public >> draft [148]← >> 16:10:26 <karen> ...and we accept comments both internally with W3C and >> on the mailing list within a period of time >> >> [145] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [147] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [149]Karen Myers: ...and we accept comments both internally >> with W3C and on the mailing list within a period of time [150]← >> [151]Karen Myers: ...let's say it's one month [152]← >> 16:10:43 <azaroth> s/Respect and JS/ReSpec JS/ >> 16:10:43 <karen> ...And once the comment period is done and edits are do >> ne, we are ready to publish the Note >> >> [149] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [151] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [153]Karen Myers: ...And once the comment period is done and >> edits are done, we are ready to publish the Note [154]← >> 16:10:49 <karen> ...i don't think it's much more complex than that >> >> [153] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [155]Karen Myers: ...i don't think it's much more complex than >> that[156]← >> 16:10:55 <azaroth> \me http://www.w3.org/respec/ >> >> [155] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [157]Robert Sanderson: \me [158]http://www.w3.org/respec/ >> [159]← >> 16:11:02 <karen> ...Notes are not too high ranking in w3C space >> [160] >> >> [157] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson >> [158] http://www.w3.org/respec/ >> [160] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> Karen Myers: ...Notes are not too high ranking in w3C space >> [161]← >> 16:11:44 <karen> Karen: we can review process document...just the time f >> rame may need checking >> >> [162]Karen Myers: we can review process document...just the >> time frame may need checking >> 16:12:01 <karen> Markus: We need to be done... >> >> [162] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [163]Karen Myers: We need to be done...[164]← >> 16:12:06 <karen> ...does this sound feasible? >> >> [163] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [165]Karen Myers: ...does this sound feasible? [166]← >> 16:12:09 <karen> Rob: yes, that sounds good >> [167] >> >> [165] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [167] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson >> >> Robert Sanderson: yes, that sounds good >> 16:12:21 <karen> ...in terms of timing, we need to have something charte >> rwise that can be discussed by 1 April >> >> [168]Karen Myers: ...in terms of timing, we need to have >> something charterwise that can be discussed by 1 April [169]← >> 16:12:27 <karen> ...meaning that the Note should be in a good state >> >> [168] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [170]Karen Myers: ...meaning that the Note should be in a good >> state [171]← >> [172]Karen Myers: ...according to the IG [173]← >> 16:12:40 <karen> ...about one month or three weeks before the annotation >> s >> >> [170] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [172] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [174]Karen Myers: ...about one month or three weeks before the >> annotations [175]← >> 16:12:46 <karen> ...would go three weeks to write the note >> >> [174] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [176]Karen Myers: ...would go three weeks to write the note >> [177]← >> 16:12:55 <karen> Markus: are you ok with producing a version of the Note >> now >> >> [176] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [178]Markus Gylling: are you ok with producing a version of the >> Note now >> 16:12:58 <karen> ...in a week or so? >> >> [178] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> >> [179]Karen Myers: ...in a week or so? >> [180]← >> 16:13:06 <karen> Rob: I can try for within a week >> >> [179] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [181]Robert Sanderson: I can try for within a week >> [182]Markus Gylling: we spend time today looking at the wiki >> about we have and don't >> 16:13:28 <karen> ...then have a one-week window for the IG to look at it >> further >> [183] >> >> [181] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson >> [182] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> [183] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> Karen Myers: ...then have a one-week window for the IG to look >> at it further [184]← >> 16:13:35 <Suzanne> q+ >> >> [185]Suzanne Taylor: q+ [186]← >> 16:13:40 <karen> ...and then following week produce first draft version >> of the Note >> >> [185] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Suzanne_Taylor >> >> [187]Karen Myers: ...and then following week produce first >> draft version of the Note >> 16:13:45 <karen> Rob: my only concern with that >> >> [187] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [188]Robert Sanderson: : my only concern with that >> 16:14:00 <karen> ...is having @ in the Note referring to use cases that >> don't get agreed upon in the IG >> [189] >> >> [188] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson >> [189] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> Karen Myers: ...is having @ in the Note referring to use cases >> that don't get agreed upon in the IG [190]← >> 16:14:08 <karen> ...if Note lists all the use cases, that is easy >> >> [191]Karen Myers: ...if Note lists all the use cases, that is >> easy [192]← >> 16:14:13 <tmichel> first draft version of the Note I guess is an editor >> 's document ? >> >> [191] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [193]Thierry Michel: first draft version of the Note I guess is >> an editor's document ? [194]← >> 16:14:20 <karen> ...but if it's tracking down more references, that coul >> d be complicated >> >> [193] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Thierry_Michel >> >> [195]Karen Myers: ...but if it's tracking down more references, >> that could be complicated [196]← >> 16:14:34 <karen> Markus: if everything goes well by next Monday, we shou >> ld have IG's blessing for all or a subset? >> >> [195] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [197]Markus Gylling: if everything goes well by next Monday, we >> should have IG's blessing for all or a subset? >> 16:14:41 <karen> ...And that is your greenlight to produce a Note >> [198] >> >> [197] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> [198] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> Karen Myers: ...And that is your greenlight to produce a Note >> [199]← >> [200]Robert Sanderson: if we can do it in that timeframe, that >> would be fantastic >> 16:15:00 <karen> Markus: yes, it might take longer, but we have been thr >> ough it before >> >> [200] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson >> >> [201]Markus Gylling: yes, it might take longer, but we have >> been through it before >> 16:15:10 <karen> ...I would be surprised to see a storm of complaints >> [202] >> >> [201] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> [202] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> Karen Myers: ...I would be surprised to see a storm of >> complaints [203]← >> 16:15:21 <karen> Thierry: the first document we will produce is a first >> draft Editor's document >> >> [204]Thierry Michel: the first document we will produce is a >> first draft Editor's document >> 16:15:29 <karen> ...and once IG is ok, we'll move it to a w3C Note >> >> [204] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Thierry_Michel >> >> [205]Karen Myers: ...and once IG is ok, we'll move it to a w3C >> Note [206]← >> [207]Karen Myers: ...and sooner or later we can republish that >> Note when we want to add changes there [208]← >> 16:15:44 <karen> Markus: right >> >> [205] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [207] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [209]Markus Gylling: right >> 16:15:50 <karen> ack Suszanne >> >> [209] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> >> [210]Suzanne Taylor: there are accessibility implications for >> annotations >> 16:16:11 <Suzanne> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Mark_Highlighting >> >> [210] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Suzanne_Taylor >> >> [211]Suzanne Taylor: >> [212]http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Mark_Highlighting [213]← >> 16:16:27 <Bill_Kasdorf> q+ >> >> [211] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Suzanne_Taylor >> [212] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Mark_Highlighting >> >> [214]Bill Kasdorf: q+ [215]← >> 16:16:29 <karen> ...It would be good if Gerardo, others in accessibility >> task force had time to look over the annotations carefully >> >> [214] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Bill_Kasdorf >> >> [216]Karen Myers: ...It would be good if Gerardo, others in >> accessibility task force had time to look over the annotations >> carefully [217]← >> 16:16:38 <karen> ...with view about making annotations themselves access >> ible >> >> [216] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> ...with view about making annotations themselves accessible >> [218]← >> 16:16:47 <karen> ...We are at a conference this week and would need more >> days next week >> [219] >> >> [219] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> Karen Myers: ...We are at a conference this week and would need >> more days next week >> [220]Markus Gylling: yes, maybe we should... >> [221]Markus Gylling: >> [222]http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/UseCase_Directory#Social_Re >> ading_and_Annotations [223]← >> 16:17:00 <karen> ...ask people to just navigate to this URL >> >> [220] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> [221] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> [222] >> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/UseCase_Directory#Social_Reading_and_Annotations >> >> [224]Karen Myers: ...ask people to just navigate to this URL >> [225]← >> 16:17:09 <karen> ...you jumped straight into what we have now >> >> [224] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [226]Karen Myers: ...you jumped straight into what we have now >> [227]← >> 16:17:17 <karen> ...What you referenced, Suzanne is the last use case >> >> [226] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [228]Karen Myers: ...What you referenced, Suzanne is the last >> use case [229]← >> 16:17:27 <gcapiel> I agree. Thanks Suzzane >> >> [228] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [230]Gerardo Capiel: I agree. Thanks Suzzane >> [231]← >> 16:17:34 <karen> ...Looking at the list, Rob, to give use bearing >> >> [230] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Gerardo_Capiel >> >> [232]Karen Myers: ...Looking at the list, Rob, to give use >> bearing [233]← >> 16:17:40 <karen> ...from CG perspective, how complete is this >> >> [232] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [234]Karen Myers: ...from CG perspective, how complete is this >> [235]← >> 16:17:44 <karen> ...on a scale from one to 100 >> >> [234] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [236]Karen Myers: ...on a scale from one to 100 [237]← >> 16:17:48 <karen> Rob: 95 >> [238] >> >> [236] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [238] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson >> >> Robert Sanderson: 95 >> [239]Karen Myers: ...it pretty much covers what the CG has >> discussed [240]← >> 16:18:06 <karen> ...one or two things which are part of the current spec >> ification >> >> [239] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [241]Karen Myers:: ...one or two things which are part of the >> current specification [242]← >> 16:18:15 <karen> ...that there were use cases for but they were very spe >> cific >> >> [241] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [243]Karen Myers: ...that there were use cases for but they >> were very specific [244]← >> 16:18:22 <karen> ...cannot think of anything that made them useful in pu >> blishing domain >> >> [243] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [245]Karen Myers: ...cannot think of anything that made them >> useful in publishing domain [246]← >> 16:18:29 <karen> ...A few things not in CG such as packages use cases >> >> [245] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [247]Karen Myers: ...A few things not in CG such as packages >> use cases [248]← >> 16:18:42 <karen> ...and recording the state of user manipulated resource >> s is not covered >> >> [247] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [249]Karen Myers:...and recording the state of user manipulated >> resources is not covered [250]← >> 16:18:47 <karen> ...that is far too complicated to come out >> >> [249] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [251]Karen Myers: ...that is far too complicated to come out >> [252]← >> 16:19:01 <karen> Markus: yes, I see a bunch that comes from discussions >> we have had here and within the EPUB WG >> >> [251] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [253]Markus Gylling: yes, I see a bunch that comes from >> discussions we have had here and within the EPUB WG >> 16:19:08 <karen> ...the packaging of annotations as well as under other >> >> [253] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> >> [254]Karen Myers: ...the packaging of annotations as well as >> under other [255]← >> 16:19:09 <Zakim> -lizadaly >> >> [254] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> Zakim IRC Bot: -lizadaly [256]← >> 16:19:15 <lizadaly> argh >> >> [257]Liza Daly: argh [258]← >> 16:19:20 <karen> ...specififying the target audience stem from EPUB work >> [259] >> >> [257] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Liza_Daly >> [259] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> Karen Myers: ...specififying the target audience stem from EPUB >> work [260]← >> 16:19:24 <karen> Rob: huge jump slightly >> >> [261]Robert Sanderson: huge jump slightly >> 16:19:40 <mgylling> q? >> >> [261] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson >> >> [262]Markus Gylling: q? [263]← >> 16:19:42 <Zakim> +lizadaly >> >> [262] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> >> Zakim IRC Bot: +lizadaly [264]← >> 16:19:43 <karen> ...Suzanne, did you expect that accessibility of annota >> tions is an accessibility use case, an annotations use case, or both >> [265] >> >> [265] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> Karen Myers: ...Suzanne, did you expect that accessibility of >> annotations is an accessibility use case, an annotations use >> case, or both [266]← >> 16:19:52 <karen> Suzanne: I worry...most important thing >> >> [267]Suzanne Taylor: I worry...most important thing >> 16:19:58 <karen> ...is that actual interface be accessible >> >> [267] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Suzanne_Taylor >> >> [268]Karen Myers: ...is that actual interface be accessible >> [269]← >> 16:20:08 <karen> ...if we keep it only in accessibility it will be in a >> second releasea >> >> [268] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [270]Karen Myers: ...if we keep it only in accessibility it >> will be in a second releasea [271]← >> 16:20:20 <karen> ...I would like to see it in the annotations work if po >> ssible >> >> [270] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [272]Karen Myers: ...I would like to see it in the annotations >> work if possible [273]← >> 16:20:24 <karen> Gerardo: I totally agree >> >> [272] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [274]Gerardo Capiel: I totally agree >> 16:20:44 <karen> ...accessibility was not thought through in first pass >> with [example Hypothes.is] >> >> [274] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Gerardo_Capiel >> >> [275]Karen Myers: ...accessibility was not thought through in >> first pass with [example Hypothes.is] [276]← >> 16:20:49 <karen> ...description, post production >> >> [275] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [277]Karen Myers: ...description, post production [278]← >> 16:21:13 <karen> Markus: we got that you agree with Suzanne >> >> [277] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [279]Markus Gylling: we got that you agree with Suzanne >> 16:21:22 <karen> ...So is that an easy item for you to carry in here, Ro >> b? >> >> [279] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> >> [280]Karen Myers:: ...So is that an easy item for you to carry >> in here, Rob? [281]← >> 16:21:40 <karen> Rob: I am not at all versed in accessibility concerns, >> but happy to work with people who are >> [282] >> >> [280] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [282] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson >> >> Robert Sanderson: I am not at all versed in accessibility >> concerns, but happy to work with people who are >> 16:21:47 <karen> ...I could not draft a first version of that requiremen >> t >> >> [283]Karen Myers: ...I could not draft a first version of that >> requirement [284]← >> 16:21:49 <karen> Markus: right >> >> [283] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [285]Markus Gylling: right >> 16:22:00 <karen> ...if we look at your collection right now, it is not t >> alking about interface properties >> [286] >> >> [285] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> [286] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> Karen Myers: ...if we look at your collection right now, it is >> not talking about interface properties [287]← >> [288]Karen Myers:...talking about the data itself, not the >> interface [289]← >> [290]Robert Sanderson: one does touch on interface >> 16:22:20 <gcapiel> Sorry, on train. I was just saying that annotations >> are very applicable for post-production image description and descriptio >> n of other visual elements. Also, it seems that accessibility has been >> an afterthought with existing solutions. >> >> [288] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [290] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson >> >> [291]Gerardo Capiel: Sorry, on train. I was just saying that >> annotations are very applicable for post-production image >> description and description of other visual elements. Also, it >> seems that accessibility has been an afterthought with existing >> solutions. [292]← >> 16:22:23 <karen> ...maintaining interface style >> >> [291] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Gerardo_Capiel >> >> [293]Karen Myers: ...maintaining interface style [294]← >> 16:22:29 <karen> ...draw in white vs black >> >> [293] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [295]Karen Myers: ...draw in white vs black [296]← >> 16:22:42 <karen> ...place a pop-up at this point so as not to cover up u >> seful text >> [297] >> >> [295] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [297] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> Karen Myers: ...place a pop-up at this point so as not to cover >> up useful text [298]← >> 16:22:56 <karen> ...those are related to the user experience, if not rel >> ated to the user interface >> [299] >> >> [299] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> Karen Myers: ...those are related to the user experience, if >> not related to the user interface [300]← >> 16:23:10 <karen> Suzanne: I would suggest that the accessibility task fo >> rce read through and add small comments >> >> [301]Suzanne Taylor: I would suggest that the accessibility >> task force read through and add small comments >> 16:23:24 <karen> ...and then we add one additional use case which descri >> bes the recommended functionality >> >> [301] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Suzanne_Taylor >> >> [302]Karen Myers: ...and then we add one additional use case >> which describes the recommended functionality [303]← >> [304]Karen Myers: ...or requirements [305]← >> 16:23:41 <karen> ...we have an initial draft and could vet that and move >> over to annotations area >> >> [302] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [304] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [306]Karen Myers: ...we have an initial draft and could vet >> that and move over to annotations area [307]← >> 16:23:54 <karen> Markus: in terms of the accessibility task force review >> , what date can we set for you? >> >> [306] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [308]Markus Gylling: in terms of the accessibility task force >> review, what date can we set for you? >> 16:24:05 <karen> ...Any chance you can do this by next Monday, or is tha >> t overly optimistic? >> >> [308] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> >> [309]Karen Myers: ...Any chance you can do this by next Monday, >> or is that overly optimistic? [310]← >> 16:24:11 <karen> Gerardo: I can work on the plane >> >> [309] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [311]Gerardo Capiel: I can work on the plane >> >> [311] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Gerardo_Capiel >> >> [312]Richard Schwerdtfeger: I would like to look at it, but >> have people in Austin this week >> 16:24:33 <karen> ...so could not get to it until the weekend or early ne >> xt week >> [313] >> >> [312] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Richard_Schwerdtfeger >> [313] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> Karen Myers: ...so could not get to it until the weekend or >> early next week [314]← >> 16:24:42 <karen> Suzanne: I would have trouble getting to it by the 3rd; >> maybe the 5th >> >> [315]Suzanne Taylor: I would have trouble getting to it by the >> 3rd; maybe the 5th >> 16:24:47 <karen> Markus: ok, that sounds good >> [316] >> >> [315] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Suzanne_Taylor >> [316] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> >> Markus Gylling: ok, that sounds good >> 16:25:05 <karen> Action: Suzanne, Gerardo and Rich to complete accessibi >> lity review by 4 February >> >> ACTION: Suzanne, Gerardo and Rich to complete accessibility >> review by 4 February [317]← >> 16:25:05 <trackbot> Error finding 'Suzanne,'. You can review and registe >> r nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/track/users>. >> >> Trackbot IRC Bot: Error finding 'Suzanne,'. You can review and >> register nicknames at >> <[318]http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/track/users>. [319]← >> 16:25:17 <karen> ack Bill >> [320] >> >> [318] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/track/users%3E. >> [320] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> Karen Myers: ack Bill [321]← >> 16:25:28 <gcapiel> There's some discussion of this topic during an Acces >> sibility Sprint which included Hypothes.is who has been involved in the >> annotations work http://kefletcher.blogspot.com/2013/06/born-digital-bor >> n-accessible-sprint.html?m=1 >> >> [322]Gerardo Capiel: There's some discussion of this topic >> during an Accessibility Sprint which included Hypothes.is who >> has been involved in the annotations work >> [323]http://kefletcher.blogspot.com/2013/06/born-digital-born-a >> ccessible-sprint.html?m=1 [324]← >> 16:25:28 <karen> Bill: I put that on when Suzanne first commented >> >> [322] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Gerardo_Capiel >> [323] >> http://kefletcher.blogspot.com/2013/06/born-digital-born-accessible-sprint.html?m=1 >> >> [325]Bill Kasdorf: I put that on when Suzanne first commented >> 16:25:39 <karen> ...there are also metadata implications for the annotat >> ions spec >> [326] >> >> [325] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Bill_Kasdorf >> [326] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> Karen Myers: ...there are also metadata implications for the >> annotations spec [327]← >> 16:25:48 <karen> ...but our situation is the opposite of accessibility >> >> [328]Karen Myers: ...but our situation is the opposite of >> accessibility [329]← >> [330]Karen Myers: ...metadata should take into account the >> finished state [331]←...rather than delay things [332]← >> 16:26:13 <karen> ...metadata responds to use cases for implications >> >> [328] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [330] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [333]Karen Myers: ...metadata responds to use cases for >> implications [334]← >> 16:26:24 <karen> Rob: What do people think about scope of metadata? >> [335] >> >> [333] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [335] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson >> >> Robert Sanderson: What do people think about scope of >> metadata? >> 16:26:34 <karen> Bill: you are involved intimately in both >> >> [336]Bill Kasdorf: you are involved intimately in both >> 16:26:51 <karen> Rob: Should metadata task force discuss annotations for >> metadata as well as publications, or both? >> >> [336] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Bill_Kasdorf >> >> [337]Robert Sanderson: Should metadata task force discuss >> annotations for metadata as well as publications, or both? >> 16:27:03 <karen> Markus: Bill? >> >> [337] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson >> >> [338]Markus Gylling: Bill? >> 16:27:09 <karen> Bill: waiting for others to respond >> >> [338] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> >> [339]Bill Kasdorf: waiting for others to respond >> 16:27:15 <karen> ...I think there will be blurred lines there >> >> [339] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Bill_Kasdorf >> >> [340]Karen Myers: ...I think there will be blurred lines there >> [341]← >> 16:27:24 <karen> ...publications...whether regarding annotations or basi >> c publication >> >> [340] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [342]Karen Myers: ...publications...whether regarding >> annotations or basic publication [343]← >> 16:27:34 <karen> ...we can responsibly address them after the annotation >> issues are clarified >> >> [342] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [344]Karen Myers: ...we can responsibly address them after the >> annotation issues are clarified [345]← >> [346]Karen Myers: ...we would not be driving annotations use >> cases, but some use cases could arise [347]← >> 16:27:51 <karen> Markus: ok, good >> >> [344] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [346] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [348]Markus Gylling: ok, good >> 16:27:55 <lizadaly> q? >> >> [348] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> >> [349]Liza Daly: q? [350]← >> 16:28:02 <azaroth> ack azaroth >> >> [349] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Liza_Daly >> >> [351]Robert Sanderson: ack azaroth [352]← >> 16:28:17 <karen> Markus: in terms of timing >> >> [351] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson >> >> [353]Markus Gylling: in terms of timing >> 16:28:28 <karen> ....by 5th the accessibility review is completed >> >> [353] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> >> [354]Karen Myers: ....by 5th the accessibility review is >> completed [355]← >> 16:28:35 <karen> ...so we can target February 10 >> >> [354] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [356]Karen Myers: ...so we can target February 10 [357]← >> 16:28:48 <karen> ...which would be our first opportunity for IG blessing >> to have first draft for review >> >> [356] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [358]Karen Myers: ...which would be our first opportunity for >> IG blessing to have first draft for review [359]← >> 16:28:55 <karen> ...and review is not only for accessibility folks >> >> [358] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [360]Karen Myers: ...and review is not only for accessibility >> folks [361]← >> 16:29:05 <karen> ...please feel free to provide your input in the next w >> eek >> >> [360] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [362]Karen Myers: ...please feel free to provide your input in >> the next week [363]← >> 16:29:07 <Zakim> -fjh >> >> [362] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> Zakim IRC Bot: -fjh [364]← >> 16:29:16 <karen> ...Rob, anything you want to alert the IG on when we re >> ad through this? >> >> [365]Karen Myers: ...Rob, anything you want to alert the IG on >> when we read through this? [366]← >> 16:29:24 <Zakim> +[IPcaller] >> >> [365] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] [367]← >> 16:29:26 <karen> ...weak areas, potential blind spots that you have been >> thinkign about? >> >> [368]Karen Myers: ...weak areas, potential blind spots that you >> have been thinkign about? [369]← >> 16:29:29 <fjh> zakim, IPcaller is me >> >> [368] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [370]Frederick Hirsch: zakim, IPcaller is me [371]← >> 16:29:29 <Zakim> +fjh; got it >> >> [370] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Frederick_Hirsch >> >> Zakim IRC Bot: +fjh; got it [372]← >> 16:29:31 <karen> Rob: I don't think so >> >> [373]Robert Sanderson: I don't think so >> 16:29:43 <karen> ...the later use cases are weaker than the earlier ones >> just due to use case fatigue >> >> [373] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson >> >> [374]Karen Myers: ...the later use cases are weaker than the >> earlier ones just due to use case fatigue [375]← >> 16:29:49 <karen> ...any comments and suggestions are very welcome >> >> [374] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [376]Karen Myers: ...any comments and suggestions are very >> welcome [377]← >> 16:29:56 <karen> Markus: the queue is empty >> >> [376] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [378]Markus Gylling: the queue is empty >> 16:30:11 <karen> ...if there are not more comments on annotations, we ar >> e ready to move onto the next agenda item >> >> [378] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> >> [379]Karen Myers: ...if there are not more comments on >> annotations, we are ready to move onto the next agenda item >> [380]← >> [381]Karen Myers: ...I'm glad we have Gerardo and Suzanne here >> [382]← >> 16:30:30 <karen> ...as the next item relates to accessibility >> >> [379] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [381] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [383]Karen Myers: ...as the next item relates to accessibility >> [384]← >> [385]Karen Myers: ...and we have Rich here as well [386]← >> 16:30:39 <karen> ...Rich, perhaps you can summarize >> >> [383] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [385] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [387]Karen Myers: ...Rich, perhaps you can summarize >> [388]Richard Schwerdtfeger: one of things we agreed to do is to >> create some modules off of ARIA to apply additional semantics >> to assistive technologies through browsers >> 16:31:09 <karen> ...make structural semantics available through ARIA >> >> [387] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [388] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Richard_Schwerdtfeger >> >> [389]Karen Myers: ...make structural semantics available >> through ARIA [390]← >> [391]Karen Myers: ...we would need to have some people from >> this IG part of that effort [392]← >> 16:31:32 <karen> ...and coordinate with main WG and collaborate >> >> [389] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [391] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [393]Karen Myers: ...and coordinate with main WG and >> collaborate [394]← >> [395]Karen Myers:...We would start with structural semantics >> [396]← >> 16:31:45 <karen> ...we don't want to slow down the work others are doing >> >> [393] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [395] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [397]Karen Myers:: ...we don't want to slow down the work >> others are doing >> 16:31:56 <karen> ...Would be great if someone could volunteer to do the >> editing >> >> [397] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [398]Karen Myers: ...Would be great if someone could volunteer >> to do the editing [399]← >> 16:32:00 <karen> ...does that summarzie? >> >> [398] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [400]Karen Myers: ...does that summarzie? >> [401]Markus Gylling: yes; what timeline? >> [402]Richard Schwerdtfeger: Depends how fast we move and get >> things implemented >> 16:32:27 <karen> ...you have done most of work, you have defined semanti >> cs >> [403] >> >> [400] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [401] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> [402] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Richard_Schwerdtfeger >> [403] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> Karen Myers: ...you have done most of work, you have defined >> semantics [404]← >> 16:32:33 <karen> ...main thing is to get out to browsers >> >> [405]Karen Myers: ...main thing is to get out to browsers >> [406]← >> 16:32:41 <karen> ...biggest thing is getting to CR >> >> [405] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [407]Karen Myers: ...biggest thing is getting to CR [408]← >> 16:32:46 <karen> ...we're looking for 1.1 by end of next eyar >> >> [407] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [409]Karen Myers: ...we're looking for 1.1 by end of next year >> [410]← >> 16:33:00 <karen> ...I don't know if we can do it in that time frame, but >> I'm willing to work with people to get that to happen >> >> [409] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [411]Karen Myers: ...I don't know if we can do it in that time >> frame, but I'm willing to work with people to get that to >> happen >> [412]Karen Myers: ...I work with many assistive technology >> vendors >> [413]Gerardo Capiel: Some of this also came out [414]← >> 16:33:21 <karen> ...from @ >> >> [411] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [412] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [413] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Gerardo_Capiel >> >> [415]Karen Myers: ...from @ [416]← >> 16:33:29 <karen> ...when we had discussion with SVG WG >> >> [415] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [417]Karen Myers: ...when we had discussion with SVG WG [418]← >> 16:33:33 <karen> ...graphs in SVG >> >> [417] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [419]Karen Myers: ...graphs in SVG [420]← >> 16:33:39 <karen> ...need for additional ARIA roles came up >> >> [419] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [421]Karen Myers: ...need for additional ARIA roles came up >> [422]← >> 16:33:45 <karen> ...Rich and Doug Schepers know about it >> [423] >> >> [421] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [423] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> Karen Myers: ...Rich and Doug Schepers know about it [424]← >> 16:33:52 <karen> ...We are planning a call at EDUPUB2 >> >> [425]Karen Myers: ...We are planning a call at EDUPUB2 >> [426]Richard Schwerdtfeger: We also agreed to form a module for >> graphics >> >> [425] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [426] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Richard_Schwerdtfeger >> >> 16:34:09 <karen> ...as long as that's not an issue >> >> [427]Karen Myers: ...as long as that's not an issue [428]← >> 16:34:12 <karen> Gerardo: perfect >> >> [427] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [429]Gerardo Capiel: perfect >> [430]Markus Gylling: We have @ from ETS >> 16:34:27 <karen> ...is that possible for 1.1? >> >> [429] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Gerardo_Capiel >> [430] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> >> [431]Karen Myers: ...is that possible for 1.1? [432]← >> [433]Karen Myers: we are full up [434]← >> 16:34:41 <karen> ...I would have to take that back to the working group >> [435] >> >> [431] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [433] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [435] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> Karen Myers: ...I would have to take that back to the working >> group [436]← >> 16:34:46 <karen> ...were you thinking TI? >> >> [437]Karen Myers: ...were you thinking TI? [438]← >> 16:34:58 <karen> Markus: Mark Hakenen and you, Laura have been thinking >> >> [437] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [439]Markus Gylling: Mark Hakenen and you, Laura have been >> thinking >> 16:35:04 <karen> Laura: Mark has been working with you >> >> [439] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> >> [440]Laura Fowler: Mark has been working with you >> 16:35:10 <karen> ...and will be talking about ARIA at EDUPUB >> >> [440] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Laura_Fowler >> >> [441]Karen Myers: ...and will be talking about ARIA at EDUPUB >> [442]← >> 16:35:15 <karen> Markus: right >> >> [441] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [443]Markus Gylling: right >> [444]Laura Fowler: I don't know how far he has gotten with that >> 16:35:26 <gcapiel> To add to minutes, I'm referring to using ARIA roles >> to aid SVG sonification >> >> [443] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> [444] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Laura_Fowler >> >> [445]Gerardo Capiel: To add to minutes, I'm referring to using >> ARIA roles to aid SVG sonification [446]← >> 16:35:29 <karen> ...or how ready he would be >> >> [445] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Gerardo_Capiel >> >> [447]Karen Myers: ...or how ready he would be [448]← >> 16:35:44 <karen> Markus: we hope to clarify parts of that at EDUPUB2 >> >> [447] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [449]Markus Gylling: we hope to clarify parts of that at >> EDUPUB2 >> [450]Karen Myers: ...if I understand there are two modules >> agreed [451]← >> 16:36:02 <karen> ...one for graphics and one for basic ebooks semantics >> >> [449] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> [450] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [452]Karen Myers: ...one for graphics and one for basic ebooks >> semantics [453]← >> [454]Karen Myers: ...your call for participation and editor is >> for both? [455]← >> [456]Karen Myers:...or epub ones? >> [457]Richard Schwerdtfeger: I want to meet with Doug and >> Gerardo at EDUPUB 2 >> 16:36:35 <karen> ...I'm chairing accessibility workshop >> >> [452] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [454] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [456] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [457] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Richard_Schwerdtfeger >> >> [458]Karen Myers: ...I'm chairing accessibility workshop >> M[459]arkus Gylling: If anyone wants to sign up for this >> module, make yourself heard >> 16:36:58 <Suzanne> I will volunteer to participate >> >> [458] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [459] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> >> [460]Suzanne Taylor: I will volunteer to participate [461]← >> 16:37:00 <karen> ...I plan to join but would love to have more people sh >> owing up >> >> [460] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Suzanne_Taylor >> >> [462]Karen Myers: ...I plan to join but would love to have more >> people showing up [463]← >> 16:37:15 <karen> ...Rich, anything else from TF meeting last week? >> >> [462] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [464]Karen Myers: ...Rich, anything else from TF meeting last >> week? >> [465]Richard Schwerdtfeger: we're looking at test cases and the >> 2.0 timeline as well >> 16:37:34 <karen> Markus: seeing that we have a little extra time >> >> [464] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [465] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Richard_Schwerdtfeger >> >> [466]Markus Gylling: seeing that we have a little extra time >> 16:37:59 <karen> ...as most of you know, we use the epub colon type attr >> ibutes 16:37:50 <karen> ...One of things that's going on, is that IDP >> F and epub is looking for a more native solution to express structural s >> emantics[467]Karen >> Myers: ...One of things >> that's going on, is that IDPF and epub is looking for a more nativ >> e >> solution to express structural semantics [468]← >> >> [466] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> [467] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [469] >> >> [469] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> Karen Myers: ...as most of you know, we use the epub colon type >> attributes [470]← >> 16:38:17 <karen> ...we are exploring options to move away from that, not >> name-space based, but something more native based to browser stack >> >> [471]Karen Myers: ...we are exploring options to move away from >> that, not name-space based, but something more native based to >> browser stack [472]← >> 16:38:20 <karen> ...a couple solutions >> >> [471] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [473]Karen Myers: ...a couple solutions [474]← >> 16:38:26 <karen> ..have been suggestions >> [475] >> >> [473] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [475] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> Karen Myers:..have been suggestions [476]← >> 16:38:34 <karen> ...one from Robin Berjon, editor of HTML5 >> >> [477]Karen Myers: ...one from Robin Berjon, editor of HTML5 >> [478]← >> [479]Karen Myers:...another option is to make the rule >> attributes less @ centric and more generic [480]← >> 16:39:05 <karen> ...Is that right Rich? >> >> [477] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [479] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [481]Karen Myers: ...Is that right Rich? >> [482]Richard Schwerdtfeger: yes, as long as it does not break >> accessibility >> 16:39:28 <karen> ...services...then I don't see an issue >> >> [481] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [482] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Richard_Schwerdtfeger >> >> [483]Karen Myers: ...services...then I don't see an issue >> [484]Markus Gylling: this means there are two avenues to look >> into >> 16:39:42 <karen> ...this IG is only partially involved here >> >> [483] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [484] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> >> [485]Karen Myers: ...this IG is only partially involved here >> [486]Karen Myers:...serving as a bridge to these discussions >> [487]← >> 16:40:00 <karen> ...but sounds more like a discussion that needs to happ >> en with HTML5 folks and the TF >> >> [485] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [486] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [488]Karen Myers: ...but sounds more like a discussion that >> needs to happen with HTML5 folks and the TF [489]← >> 16:40:08 <karen> ...any more questions regarding PF and roles? >> >> [488] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [490]Karen Myers: ...any more questions regarding PF and roles? >> 16:40:12 <karen> ...great >> [491] >> >> [490] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [491] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> Karen Myers: ...great [492]← >> 16:40:22 <karen> ...we'll see, Rich, how it goes with the call for parti >> cipation >> >> [493]Karen Myers: ...we'll see, Rich, how it goes with the call >> for participation [494]← >> 16:40:32 <karen> ...we'll try perhaps to gather people to sign up for ne >> xt week's call >> >> [493] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [495]Karen Myers: ...we'll try perhaps to gather people to sign >> up for next week's call >> 16:40:36 <karen> ...with a week to think about this >> >> [495] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [496]Karen Myers: ...with a week to think about this >> [497]Richard Schwerdtfeger: that's perfect [timeline] >> [498]Markus Gylling: final agenda item is the focus task force >> for next meeting >> 16:41:02 <karen> ...I wrote to two of them >> >> [496] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [497] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Richard_Schwerdtfeger >> [498] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> >> [499]Karen Myers:: ...I wrote to two of them [500]← >> 16:41:12 <karen> ...I see some in a pretty early state >> >> [499] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [501]Karen Myers: ...I see some in a pretty early state [502]← >> 16:41:15 <karen> ...such as metadata >> >> [501] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [503]Karen Myers:...such as metadata [504]← >> 16:41:23 <karen> ...Bill, Brady, what do you think? >> >> [503] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [505]Karen Myers: ...Bill, Brady, what do you think? [506]← >> 16:41:36 <karen> Bill: I would be happy to next week focus on metadata i >> f group wants to do that >> [507] >> >> [505] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [507] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Bill_Kasdorf >> >> Bill Kasdorf: I would be happy to next week focus on metadata >> if group wants to do that >> 16:41:45 <karen> ...Ivan will be on call next week; hope Madi would be a >> s well >> >> [508]Karen Myers:...Ivan will be on call next week; hope Madi >> would be as well [509]← >> 16:41:57 <karen> ...It did just get started up >> >> [508] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [510]Karen Myers: ...It did just get started up [511]← >> 16:42:11 <karen> ...if we devote next week's meeting, we should avoid ge >> tting into specifics, and focus on scope >> >> [510] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [512]Karen Myers: ...if we devote next week's meeting, we >> should avoid getting into specifics, and focus on scope [513]← >> 16:42:22 <karen> ...it's easy to get into the weeds in the metadata disc >> ussions >> >> [512] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [514]Karen Myers: ...it's easy to get into the weeds in the >> metadata discussions [515]← >> 16:42:28 <karen> ...what became immediately clear on wiki discussions >> >> [514] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [516]Karen Myers:: ...what became immediately clear on wiki >> discussions [517]← >> [518]Karen Myers: ...is the importance of emphasizing the what >> rather than the how [519]← >> 16:42:41 <karen> ...the mechanisms and solutions >> >> [516] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [518] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [520]Karen Myers: ...the mechanisms and solutions [521]← >> 16:42:50 <karen> ...lots of details about metadata vocabularies >> >> [520] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [522]Karen Myers: ...lots of details about metadata >> vocabularies [523]← >> 16:42:55 <karen> Brady: on the pagination side >> >> [522] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [524]Brady Duga: on the pagination side >> 16:43:02 <karen> ...I don't remember agreeing to head this group >> >> [524] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Brady_Duga >> >> [525]Karen Myers: ...I don't remember agreeing to head this >> group [526]← >> 16:43:09 <karen> ...I may have been nominated for it >> >> [525] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [527]Karen Myers: ...I may have been nominated for it [528]← >> 16:43:18 <karen> ...I am editing the wiki with behavioral adaptations >> >> [527] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [529]Karen Myers: ...I am editing the wiki with behavioral >> adaptations [530]← >> 16:43:29 <karen> ...but don't recall heading that group >> >> [529] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [531]Karen Myers: ...but don't recall heading that group [532]← >> 16:43:31 <karen> Markus: that is right >> >> [531] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [533]Markus Gylling: that is right >> 16:43:39 <karen> ...you took action to add DOM pagination >> >> [533] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> >> [534]Karen Myers: ...you took action to add DOM pagination >> [535]← >> [536]Karen Myers:...I am to blame for elevating you to task >> force lead [537]← >> 16:43:49 <brady_duga> Sorry, deadzone >> >> [534] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [536] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [538]Brady Duga: Sorry, deadzone [539]← >> 16:43:52 <brady_duga> I dropped >> >> [538] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Brady_Duga >> >> [540]Brady Duga: I dropped [541]← >> 16:43:54 <karen> ...this is an important area >> >> [540] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Brady_Duga >> >> [542]Karen Myers: ...this is an important area [543]← >> 16:44:07 <karen> ...even if we change the task force lead to someone els >> e, we still need to get going >> >> [542] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [544]Karen Myers: ...even if we change the task force lead to >> someone else, we still need to get going [545]← >> 16:44:16 <karen> Bill: I am happy to have call focus on metadata >> >> [544] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [546]Bill Kasdorf: I am happy to have call focus on metadata >> 16:44:24 <karen> ...we have a framework for discussion on the wiki >> >> [546] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Bill_Kasdorf >> >> [547]Karen Myers: ...we have a framework for discussion on the >> wiki [548]← >> [549]Karen Myers:...but if next week is better used for @ I am >> happy to defer [550]← >> 16:44:51 <karen> Markus: I think we are good to go with metadata next we >> ek >> >> [547] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [549] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [551]Markus Gylling: I think we are good to go with metadata >> next week >> 16:44:59 <karen> ...and Brady and I can sort things out on pagination >> [552] >> >> [551] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> [552] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> Karen Myers: ...and Brady and I can sort things out on >> pagination [553]← >> 16:45:07 <karen> Brady: I will be adding some stuff to the wiki >> >> [554]Brady Duga: I will be adding some stuff to the wiki >> 16:45:20 <karen> ...will be a strength to that section and I'll particip >> ate in that group >> >> [554] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Brady_Duga >> >> [555]Karen Myers: ...will be a strength to that section and >> I'll participate in that group [556]← >> 16:45:23 <karen> ...On a side note >> >> [555] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [557]Karen Myers: ...On a side note [558]← >> 16:45:33 <karen> ...adding something to wiki, we don't have reading syst >> em authors there >> >> [557] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [559]Karen Myers: ...adding something to wiki, we don't have >> reading system authors there [560]← >> 16:45:46 <karen> Markus: that is still open-ended >> >> [559] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [561]Markus Gylling: that is still open-ended >> [562]Karen Myers: ...if you find yourself in corner, feel free >> to add it [563]← >> 16:46:04 <karen> Brady: just add it and it appears? >> >> [561] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> [562] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [564]Brady Duga: just add it and it appears? >> 16:46:05 <karen> Markus: yes >> >> [564] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Brady_Duga >> >> [565]Markus Gylling: yes >> 16:46:12 <karen> ...I think we are settled and done for the day? >> >> [565] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> >> [566]Karen Myers: ...I think we are settled and done for the >> day? [567]← >> 16:46:16 <karen> ...Any other business? >> >> [566] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [568]Karen Myers: ...Any other business? [569]← >> 16:46:21 <karen> ...super >> >> [568] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [570]Karen Myers: ...super [571]← >> 16:46:30 <karen> ...please recall your review of the annotations collect >> ions warmly welcome >> >> [570] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [572]Karen Myers:...please recall your review of the >> annotations collections warmly welcome [573]← >> 16:46:45 <karen> ...Suzanne, Rich and Gerardo will do a dedicated review >> from an accessibility perspective >> >> [572] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [574]Karen Myers: ...Suzanne, Rich and Gerardo will do a >> dedicated review from an accessibility perspective >> [575]Richard Schwerdtfeger: Are there any other aspects of >> annotation being included? >> 16:47:02 <karen> ...I saw a mark >> >> [574] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [575] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Richard_Schwerdtfeger >> >> [576]Karen Myers: ...I saw a mark [577]← >> 16:47:04 <Zakim> -duga >> >> [576] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> Zakim IRC Bot: -duga [578]← >> 16:47:11 <karen> ...are you referencing mark element in HTML5? >> >> [579]Karen Myers: ...are you referencing mark element in HTML5? >> [580]← >> 16:47:19 <karen> Markus: Maybe you are not aware of the open annotation >> CG >> >> [579] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [581]Markus Gylling: Maybe you are not aware of the open >> annotation CG >> 16:47:23 <karen> ...you mentioned at the PF call >> [582] >> >> [581] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> [582] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> Karen Myers: ...you mentioned at the PF call [583]← >> 16:47:29 <azaroth> http://www.w3.org/community/openannotation/ >> >> [584]Robert Sanderson: >> [585]http://www.w3.org/community/openannotation/ [586]← >> 16:47:31 <mgylling> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/UseCase_Directory#Soc >> ial_Reading_and_Annotations >> >> [584] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson >> [585] http://www.w3.org/community/openannotation/ >> >> [587]Markus Gylling: >> [588]http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/UseCase_Directory#Social_Re >> ading_and_Annotations [589]← >> 16:47:34 <karen> Markus: Rob Sanderson from this group is co-chair of th >> at >> >> [587] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> [588] >> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/UseCase_Directory#Social_Reading_and_Annotations >> >> [590]Markus Gylling: Rob Sanderson from this group is co-chair >> of that >> 16:47:40 <Zakim> -fjh >> >> [590] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> >> Zakim IRC Bot: -fjh [591]← >> 16:47:45 <karen> ...and is working with W3C staff to propose a rec track >> version of open annotations >> >> [592]Karen Myers: ...and is working with W3C staff to propose a >> rec track version of open annotations >> [593]Karen Myers: ...and epub also working on integrating >> [594]← >> 16:47:58 <karen> ...you may want to read in on that >> [595] >> >> [592] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [593] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> [595] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> Karen Myers: ...you may want to read in on that [596]← >> [597]Karen Myers:...good opportunity for an inverted long desk >> [598]← >> 16:48:21 <karen> Rob: if there is anything I can do to help, shoot me an >> email; happy to do what I can >> >> [597] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> [599]Robert Sanderson: if there is anything I can do to help, >> shoot me an email; happy to do what I can >> M[600]arkus Gylling: any other questions? >> 16:48:34 <karen> ...thank you for today >> [601] >> >> [599] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson >> [600] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >> [601] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> Karen Myers: ...thank you for today [602]← >> 16:48:38 <karen> ...thank you, Karen for scribing >> >> [603]Karen Myers: ...thank you, Karen for scribing >> 16:48:39 <Zakim> -gcapiel >> >> [603] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> Zakim IRC Bot: -gcapiel [604]← >> 16:48:40 <Zakim> -lizadaly >> >> Zakim IRC Bot: -lizadaly [605]← >> 16:48:40 <Zakim> -mgylling >> >> Zakim IRC Bot: -mgylling [606]← >> 16:48:41 <Zakim> - +1.646.336.aabb >> >> Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.646.336.aabb [607]← >> 16:48:42 <Zakim> -dshkolnik >> >> Zakim IRC Bot: -dshkolnik [608]← >> 16:48:42 <Zakim> -Vlad >> >> Zakim IRC Bot: -Vlad [609]← >> 16:48:42 <Zakim> -Bill_Kasdorf >> >> Zakim IRC Bot: -Bill_Kasdorf [610]← >> 16:48:43 <karen> ...meeting adjourned >> [611] >> >> [611] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Karen_Myers >> >> Karen Myers:...meeting adjourned >> [612]Richard Schwerdtfeger: (handle)42@gmail.com >> 17:05:01 <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, Marilyn, in DPUB_DP >> UBIG()11:00AM >> __________________________________________________________ >> >> [612] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Richard_Schwerdtfeger >> >> > ---- Ivan Herman, W3C Digital Publishing Activity Lead Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ mobile: +31-641044153 GPG: 0x343F1A3D FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf
Received on Tuesday, 28 January 2014 15:52:50 UTC