Re: number of individuals who have commented on SHACL

On 24/02/2017 10:47, Sandro Hawke wrote:
> That sounds pretty compelling, to me, Irene.  Is there an indication 
> of how many of these folks might be comfortable with the current 
> design vs older, discarded versions of SHACL, or even ShEx?
>
> The W3C process definition of Wide Review is here: 
> https://www.w3.org/2015/Process-20150901/#wide-review
>
> The overall Transition Process is documented in a format that I find 
> overwhelming here: 
> https://services.w3.org/xslt?xmlfile=https://www.w3.org/2005/08/01-transitions2015.html&xslfile=https://www.w3.org/2005/08/transitions2015.xsl&docstatus=cr-tr
>
> Can I suggest copying someone else's Transition Request to a new Wiki 
> Page (eg copy from https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/AS2_CR) and then 
> start to fill it in for SHACL?   In particular, put the kind of 
> details in your email below (with links to more details) in the Wide 
> Review section of that page?    And look at the "overwhelming" page 
> for more guidance about what goes there (in its section titled "Wide 
> Review", etc).
>
> We can use the Transition Request wiki page both as an evolving draft 
> and a kind of to-do list for CR.
>
> If we can get that together soon, I should be able to run it by 
> Philippe and Ralph and get more of a sense of what else needs to be 
> done to be sufficient Wide Review.

I have started a wiki page

     https://www.w3.org/2014/data-shapes/wiki/CR-Transition-Request

where we can collect this info. Any help from WG members is much 
appreciated!

Holger



>
>        -- Sandro
>
>
> On 02/23/2017 07:20 PM, Irene Polikoff wrote:
>> Plus today’s post from Stephane Fellah making it 72.
>>
>> Sandro,
>>
>> I wonder if this number is considered large enough to serve as an 
>> evidence of a wide review?
>>
>> While we could look for the various places to post about SHACL, it 
>> seems to me that the information about SHACL is already fairly widely 
>> known.
>>
>> In addition to people who have participated through the mailing list, 
>> I know about two meetups that were focused on SHACL -one in DC about 
>> a year ago and a more recent one in Berlin hosted by Bayer. Also, 
>> Dimitris organized a workshop on SHACL during the Semantics 2016 
>> conference in Leipzig. He could probably get a list of attendees or 
>> at least get a number. I was there and I think the room was pretty 
>> full with only 3 people among the attendees were the working group 
>> members.
>>
>> There have also been some blog posts about SHACL by people outside of 
>> the working group who are considered to be “gurus” in the data 
>> modeling space and, thus, have relatively broad readership. For example:
>>
>> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/meet-shacl-next-owl-kurt-cagle
>> https://semanticarts.com/blog/rdf-shapes/
>>
>> Having said this, I am all for marketing SHACL more through posts, 
>> presentations, raising awareness, etc. I am just not sure to what 
>> extent we have to do so in order to meet the “wide review” requirement.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Irene
>>
>>
>>> On Feb 22, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Irene Polikoff <irene@topquadrant.com 
>>> <mailto:irene@topquadrant.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Based on today’s input from Sandro, I went through the public 
>>> mailing list and identified people who have posted comments. I have 
>>> removed a few who only posted because they had an announcement of 
>>> their own to make.
>>>
>>> I have also tried to cross-reference against the current or (to my 
>>> best recollection) past participants of the WG. There were a few 
>>> comments (including very recent) submitted by people who have signed 
>>> up for the working group, but have not attended meetings - at least 
>>> not within the last year. I am not sure if this distinction is 
>>> important, but I made a note of it just in case.
>>>
>>> In total, 71 people have participated in the discussion on the 
>>> public mailing list. Out of this, 24 people are currently members of 
>>> the WG or or have been at some point in the past members of the WG. 
>>> Some of the past members (notably Peter Pate-Schneider) have 
>>> continued to participate and submit comments after they have left 
>>> the WG. Others started to participate before they became WG members.
>>>
>>> Adam Kimball  
>>> Andy Seaborne  WG member
>>> Antoine Isaac  
>>> Arnaud Le Hors  past WG member
>>> Arthur Ryman  past WG member
>>> Bart van Leeuwen  WG member
>>> Bernard Vatant  
>>> Bosch, Thomas  
>>> Dam, Jesse van  
>>> Dan Brickley  
>>> Daniel Fernández Álvarez  
>>> Dave Reynolds  
>>> David Booth  
>>> Dean Allemang  WG member
>>> Dimitris Kontokostas  WG member
>>> Eric Prud'hommeaux  W3C staff
>>> Erik Wilde  
>>> Evren Sirin  
>>> Gray, Alasdair J G  
>>> Gregg Kellogg  
>>> HODGES Jr, John  
>>> Holger Knublauch  WG member
>>> Hugo Manguinhas  
>>> iman.db@web.de <mailto:iman.db@web.de>  
>>> Iovka Boneva  past WG member
>>> Irene Polikoff  WG member
>>> james anderson  
>>> Jeremy J Carroll  
>>> Jerven Bolleman  WG member
>>> John Snelson  
>>> john.walker  
>>> Jose Emilio Labra Gayo  past WG member
>>> Jose María Alvarez Rodríguez  
>>> Judson Lester  
>>> Karen Coyle  past WG member
>>> Kendall Clark  
>>> Lars Marius Garshol  
>>> M. Scott Marshall  
>>> Magnus Knuth  
>>> Manu Sporny  
>>> Markus Lanthaler  WG member, but has been posting on the public list 
>>> only, has not participated in meetings
>>> Martynas Jusevičius  
>>> Michel Dumontier  WG member, but has been posting on the public list 
>>> only, has not participated in meetings
>>> Miika Alonen  
>>> Nicolas Torzec  
>>> Olivier Corby  WG member, but has been posting on the public list 
>>> only, has not participated in meetings
>>> Olivier Rossel  
>>> Oreste Signore  
>>> Paul Davidson  
>>> Paul Hermans  
>>> Peter F. Patel-Schneider  past WG member
>>> Phil Archer  W3C staff
>>> Richard Cyganiak  past WG member
>>> Robert Powers  
>>> Sandro Hawke  W3C staff
>>> Sebastian Hellmann  
>>> Simon Spero  
>>> Simon Steyskal  WG member
>>> Simon.Cox@csiro.au <mailto:Simon.Cox@csiro.au>  
>>> Sławek Staworko  WG member, but has been posting on the public list 
>>> only, has not participated in meetings
>>> Smith, Tim  WG member
>>> Solbrig, Harold R.  past WG member
>>> Steve Ray  
>>> Steve Speicher  
>>> Stuart A. Yeates  
>>> Svensson, Lars  
>>> Ted Thibodeau Jr  WG member
>>> Terry Roach  
>>> Thomas Francart  
>>> Tom Johnson  
>>> Vladimir Alexiev  
>>>
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