- From: Holger Knublauch <holger@topquadrant.com>
- Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 10:24:25 +1000
- To: public-data-shapes-wg@w3.org
On 8/5/2015 2:54, Peter F. Patel-Schneider wrote: > Here is a proposal for handling SHACL errors and validation results. > > > An invocation of a SHACL processor is an attempt to perform zero or more > validation tasks. > > Errors: > > A SHACL processor can encounter errors in trying to perform these tasks, > such as > - communications problems, e.g., the inability to access a required document > or service; > - incorrect syntax, e.g., a syntactically malformed SHACL construct; > - incorrect control information, e.g., trying to start validation using a > node that is not in the data; and As an aside on the last sentence, why should the system report an error if a node is not in the data? I believe this is a perfectly fine use case - a focus node may simply not have any triples, and this may be exactly the condition that a constraints wants to check. > - resource exhaustion, e.g., exceeding allowable processing time. > When an error is detected the SHACL processor MUST signal the error, using > means different from reporting violations, and MAY terminate its work at > that point. The processor MAY report on the violations that it had > discovered before it encountered the error. I don't think any of this contradicts the proposal by myself and Dimitris. The main difference appears to be that we call Failures what you call Errors. It is also perfectly fine to terminate on the first Failure/Error. This would be a setting in the engine. > Violations: > > The execution of a validation task results in a number of violations. If > there are no violations then the task is a success, otherwise it is a > failure. Each violation is reported in a simple minimal form that is > suitable for futher processing. There are are no sub-types of violations > such as warning violations or error violations. There are no severity > levels for violations. > > The execution of zero or more validation tasks is performed by executing > each of the tasks in some unspecified order. The difference here appears to be that you don't want severity levels, and your "Violations" are called "Validation Results" in our proposal. The latter was chosen because some results may be INFO or DEBUG level, making "Violation" not a good term. > > Discussion: > > Fine-grained control and reporting can be done by using separate invocations. > If some violations are errors and some are only warnings, they can be run > in separate invocations and processed differently by whatever calls the > SHACL processor. If there are multiple severity levels for errors, then > each severity level can be run in a separate invocation. If there are > multiple validation tasks that each need to have violations handled > differently, then each can be run in a separate invocation. Unless I have misunderstood you, you have contradicted yourself. Further above you state you don't want severity levels, and here you write about multiple levels. Note that in our proposal, each constraint can have an individual severity level using sh:severity (which defaults to sh:Error). This information can already be used to have the engine skip certain constraints (e.g. skip warnings if we are only interested in errors). Please clarify. Thanks, Holger
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