Re: Utah State-Endorsed Digital Identity (SEDI) legislation

> On the other hand, our community has almost completely avoided dealing
with issues of holder binding, biometrics, and delegation

Doesn’t DIDs atleast DID:cel have built in holder-binding. When I present a
VC issued to the DID I control I sing the message presenting the VC. The RP
can then verify everything.

Same with all the other concerns you raised DIDs and VCs can be very
flexible and convinient primitives to orchestrate any kinds of trust flows.

What am I missing?

la 14.2.2026 klo 12.48 ap. Adrian Gropper <agropper@healthurl.com>
kirjoitti:

> I agree that SEDI is the best we’ve seen so far. It’s probably a better
> foundation for thinking about wallets - especially about wallets that are
> compiled from source code like bitcoin wallets can be.
>
> On the other hand, our community has almost completely avoided dealing
> with issues of holder binding, biometrics, and delegation while we swoon
> over cryptography and ZKPs. I’m not saying EUDI is worthwhile or that I
> hope it succeeds. I’m just pointing out that they are tackling issues that
> Utah is not.
>
> Adrian
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2026 at 5:27 PM Filip Kolarik <filip26@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Nikos,
>>
>> With physical documents, governments have no control over who asks to see
>> a government-issued ID, and simply asking isn’t illegal. Many private
>> actors request ID routinely; not because there’s some explicit legal
>> support granting them special status.
>>
>> The real issue isn’t who asks, it’s misuse. That’s a separate topic
>> entirely, and restricting wallets and verification through controlled or
>> approved apps doesn’t address it. If anything, it locks the ecosystem,
>> limits beneficial use, and risks negatively impacting innovation and
>> economic growth while favoring large incumbents.
>>
>> Wallet or verifier restrictions do not solve the problem; they just
>> introduce new ones and risk preventing the EU from being competitive once
>> again. It could end up being another case of billions spent on a project
>> that fails to deliver, again.
>>
>> Best,
>> Filip
>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/filipkolarik/
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2026 at 11:10 PM NIKOLAOS FOTIOY <fotiou@aueb.gr> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> > No, that's government overreach into the private lives of individuals.
>>> > I should be able to show my government ID to anyone I choose to show
>>> > it to. It also works against the government because your credentials
>>> > become less valuable as less people can rely on them. How do you get
>>> > onto the verifier list? These are policy decisions that often get
>>> > gamed by large organizations.
>>>
>>> This is our fundamental difference in thinking. In my opinion
>>> individuals do not feel restricted for not be able to show their government
>>> ID, it’s the other way around: they do not want to show their government
>>> ID. In the real world there are restrictions who can ask your government
>>> ID. In my opinion it should be the same in the digital world.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Nikos
>>
>>