RE: W3C Credentials CG Call Tues: mobile DL deck

“As it stands, ISO collaboration seems like a good way for W3C and IETF to lose our way. “
…or get left behind. It’s up to the community to decide.

Best regards,
Jim
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From: Adrian Gropper <agropper@healthurl.com>
Sent: Friday, October 8, 2021 3:58 PM
To: Jim St.Clair <jim.stclair@lumedic.io>
Cc: Anders Rundgren <anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com>; Credentials Community Group <public-credentials@w3.org>; dzagidulin@gmail.com
Subject: Re: W3C Credentials CG Call Tues: mobile DL deck

Pay-for standards should have no role in SSI because they are inaccessible to community-supported F/OSS.

IEEE has tried to split this baby with their privacy-inflected 7000 series. It’s a potential solution for ISO. As it stands, ISO collaboration seems like a good way for W3C and IETF to lose our way.

- Adrian

On Fri, Oct 8, 2021 at 3:11 PM Jim St.Clair <jim.stclair@lumedic.io<mailto:jim.stclair@lumedic.io>> wrote:
“+100
Pay-for-standards was a great idea..twenty years ago.”
…yeah, except we’re sitting here realizing our standard is being displaced by this new standard using the 20 year old model, so….


Best regards,

Jim

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Jim St.Clair

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Subject: Re: W3C Credentials CG Call Tues: mobile DL deck

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On 2021-10-08 19:46, Dmitri Zagidulin wrote:
> David Chadwick wrote:
>
>  > At the same time I advised the W3C VC WG about mDL and suggested that we could utilise their well developed protocols as we had none. But again that request fell on deaf ears.
>
> I suspect part of the issue here is just culture clash. All of us (most of us?) want as much wide interop as possible, and to respect prior art. However, for any given W3C WG member, the idea of paying $200 or whatever it is to just LOOK at the ISO spec... that's a hard sell.

+100
Pay-for-standards was a great idea..twenty years ago.

Anders

> Dmitri