Re: W3C Credentials CG Call Tues: mobile DL deck

I have to agree with Jim here. Whether we like them or not, the ISO mDL
specs are a reality we have to deal with. And as I think the presentation
of the UL team shows (I wasn't able to attend the CCG edition but they gave
the same presentation to the ToIP Ecosystem Foundry Working Group two weeks
ago), they are actively seeking to figure out how to co-exist/interoperate
with the W3C VC specs.

So +1 to productive engagement that does NOT sacrifice our design
principles.

=Drummond

On Fri, Oct 8, 2021 at 2:39 PM Jim St.Clair <jim.stclair@lumedic.io> wrote:

> “As it stands, ISO collaboration seems like a good way for W3C and IETF to
> lose our way. “
>
> …or get left behind. It’s up to the community to decide.
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>
> Best regards,
>
> Jim
>
> *_______________*
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>
>
> *Jim St.Clair *
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> Chief Trust Officer
>
> jim.stclair@lumedic.io | 228-273-4893
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> *Let’s meet to discuss patient identity exchange*:
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>
> *From:* Adrian Gropper <agropper@healthurl.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, October 8, 2021 3:58 PM
> *To:* Jim St.Clair <jim.stclair@lumedic.io>
> *Cc:* Anders Rundgren <anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com>; Credentials
> Community Group <public-credentials@w3.org>; dzagidulin@gmail.com
> *Subject:* Re: W3C Credentials CG Call Tues: mobile DL deck
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> Pay-for standards should have no role in SSI because they are inaccessible
> to community-supported F/OSS.
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> IEEE has tried to split this baby with their privacy-inflected 7000
> series. It’s a potential solution for ISO. As it stands, ISO collaboration
> seems like a good way for W3C and IETF to lose our way.
>
>
>
> - Adrian
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>
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> On Fri, Oct 8, 2021 at 3:11 PM Jim St.Clair <jim.stclair@lumedic.io>
> wrote:
>
> “+100
> Pay-for-standards was a great idea..twenty years ago.”
>
> …yeah, except we’re sitting here realizing our standard is being displaced
> by this new standard using the 20 year old model, so….
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jim
>
> *_______________*
>
>
>
> *Jim St.Clair *
>
> Chief Trust Officer
>
> jim.stclair@lumedic.io | 228-273-4893
>
> *Let’s meet to discuss patient identity exchange*:
> https://calendly.com/jim-stclair-1
>
>
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> *From:* Anders Rundgren <anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, October 8, 2021 1:00:12 PM
> *To:* dzagidulin@gmail.com <dzagidulin@gmail.com>; Credentials Community
> Group <public-credentials@w3.org>
> *Subject:* Re: W3C Credentials CG Call Tues: mobile DL deck
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> On 2021-10-08 19:46, Dmitri Zagidulin wrote:
> > David Chadwick wrote:
> >
> >  > At the same time I advised the W3C VC WG about mDL and suggested that
> we could utilise their well developed protocols as we had none. But again
> that request fell on deaf ears.
> >
> > I suspect part of the issue here is just culture clash. All of us (most
> of us?) want as much wide interop as possible, and to respect prior art.
> However, for any given W3C WG member, the idea of paying $200 or whatever
> it is to just LOOK at the ISO spec... that's a hard sell.
>
> +100
> Pay-for-standards was a great idea..twenty years ago.
>
> Anders
>
> > Dmitri
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