Re: Bikeshed: Renaming the VC HTTP API

+1 to VC Delivery

As the non-technical audience reading this thread, I find I am able to easily picture what is meant by VC Delivery.

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From: "Leah Houston, MD" <leah@hpec.io>
Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2021 at 7:56 AM
To: "Michael Herman (Trusted Digital Web)" <mwherman@parallelspace.net>
Cc: Heather Vescent <heathervescent@gmail.com>, Kerri Lemoie <klemoie@concentricsky.com>, Moses Ma <moses.ma@futurelabconsulting.com>, Pindar Wong <pindar.wong@gmail.com>, "public-credentials@w3.org" <public-credentials@w3.org>
Subject: Re: Bikeshed: Renaming the VC HTTP API
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Resent-Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2021 at 7:54 AM

+1 to VC Delivery

IMO Because this is going to be applying to a non-technical audience, and we have the goal of being a truly accessible and self sovereign technology the non-technical audience needs to understand it in order for it to work properly. Also, if we tether it to an existing technology (HTTPS/REST etc) it gives the impression that it has to be tethered to the technology and that’s not necessarily the case

On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 5:23 PM Michael Herman (Trusted Digital Web) <mwherman@parallelspace.net<mailto:mwherman@parallelspace.net>> wrote:
Re:  I also like something that is accessible beyond our core tech heavy community.
This is a relatively low-level software protocol.
Why do you feel it needs to appeal to a non-technical audience? As mentioned earlier, IMO the primary audience is software architects/developers.
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Subject: Re: Bikeshed: Renaming the VC HTTP API

Naming is hard. Branding is done with an audience in mind. I agree with Kerri in that we don't have to explain everything. I also like something that is accessible beyond our core tech heavy community.

+1 VC Delivery

This is descriptive and yet simplistic. It provides a good jump off point to go into a technical or use case rabbit hole while keeping the essence of the meaning.


On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 9:27 AM Kerri Lemoie <klemoie@concentricsky.com<mailto:klemoie@concentricsky.com>> wrote:
I love this message, Moses. It was a great way to start my Monday morning.

My two cents: Acronyms are hard to remember and we are already drowning in them. We also don’t need to explain everything a technology is/does in its name. Technologies are adopted when they are perceived to be useful, easy to use, and understandable. With that in mind, what if we call it Verifiable Credentials Delivery (leaning on the existing VC acronym as: VC Delivery). This implies that a VC is sent & received. It’s also an accessible word for those who are trying to explain it to others.

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On Jul 18, 2021, at 4:57 PM, Moses Ma <moses.ma@futurelabconsulting.com<mailto:moses.ma@futurelabconsulting.com>> wrote:

This note from Pindar made me want to share one more thing with the group.

I'm a practicing "Taoist", which means I do stuff like qigong and I meditate, but more importantly, it is a practice of stopping my mind so I can see the beauty of the present moment. I've noticed that being in a working group, we often get so wrapped up in what we're arguing about that we forget to see how beautiful this work, and this working group, can be. How different it is from the typical way things get done. How breathtaking the vision to change the world.

So anyway, that's why I tend to use a little humor to get us to stop, take a breath, and to see how much we actually enjoy working together. And how ambitious this undertaking is. And how grateful I am to each of you for participating... and especially the chairs and authors for leading the charge.

This has been your moment of Zen.

Now back to work!

MM



On 7/17/21 11:53 PM, Pindar Wong wrote:
ok... I submit... you made me laugh!

p.


On Sun, Jul 18, 2021 at 3:42 AM Moses Ma <moses.ma@futurelabconsulting.com<mailto:moses.ma@futurelabconsulting.com>> wrote:
Then Veri-HAPI 🤣

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On Jul 17, 2021 at 12:34 PM, <Manu Sporny<mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.com>> wrote:

On 7/17/21 3:26 PM, Moses Ma wrote:

> How about just HAPI for HTTP VC API?



Taken (for HTTP APIs):



https://hapi.dev/




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