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Re: The change from claims to credentials.

From: Ted Thibodeau Jr <tthibodeau@openlinksw.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 14:33:54 -0400
Cc: Snorre Lothar von Gohren Edwin <snorre@diwala.io>, Credentials CG <public-credentials@w3.org>
Message-Id: <088BEB26-AC33-4C92-BD91-75FCB6E9A565@openlinksw.com>
To: Brent Zundel <brent.zundel@evernym.com>
On Aug 9, 2021, at 1:23 PM, Brent Zundel <brent.zundel@evernym.com> wrote:
> 
> I would say it was not a focus change as much as a name change to more accurately reflect the focus.

I would say rather, it was a change to more accurately reflect the *achievable*.

“Verifiable Credentials” as specified to date provide an assurance that a specific Issuer emanated some Assertion(s) (or “claim(s)”), each comprised of one or more Attribute + Value pairs, about a specific Subject. 

The WG found that “Verifiable Claims” suggested to readers that we were delivering some assurance, or way to make same, of the *veracity* of the assertions made, which was and is (and I believe will always be) impossible.

Thus, even though each Verifiable Credential includes Claims, the Claims themselves are not Verifiable.

I hope that helps!

> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 5:40 AM Snorre Lothar von Gohren Edwin <snorre@diwala.io> wrote:
>> Hi! I just wonder and want to confirm
>> 
>> In early days there was a lot of talk about verifiable claims. But it was a switch over to focus more on verifiable credentials.
>> 
>> Do anyone have a briefe paragraph on the history of this focus change?
>> 
>> -- 
>> Snorre Lothar von Gohren Edwin
>> Co-Founder & CTO, Diwala
>> +47 411 611 94
>> www.diwala.io
> 
> 
> -- 
> Brent Zundel, Evernym
> Principle Cryptography Engineer

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