Re: Zoom is shite

Thanks Heather!

Some details about it:
- I hacked together (don't judge) this command line tool
https://github.com/kimdhamilton/vtt-to-irc.
- You give it the zoom transcript (.vtt) file, and it converts it to
irc-raw.log.
- As with the current chair workflow, we clean up the irc-raw.log file,
save it as irc.log, then put it in github (which converts to html, sends
email, etc)
- I didn't add support for alias mapping yet, but that's pretty easy. (I
manually did find/replace during cleanup.)
- I can add this as a github action to run when you check in a .vtt file
(and then the rest of the pipeline continues as normal)

In general, the cleanup the chairs will need to do from irc-raw.log to
irc.log looks like it should be similar. I.e. we always go through and
check for missing aliases, "topic:", etc. [details
<https://github.com/w3c-ccg/meetings/blob/gh-pages/generate_minutes.md#step-3-clean-up-the-log-file>]
But note that, in this case, I did *no cleanup besides alias fixing*,
because I spent all my allotted time making the cli tool. :) (we can always
clean up further later).


On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 12:46 PM Heather Vescent <heathervescent@gmail.com>
wrote:

> These minutes are AMAZING Kim! A++ Use of Zoom + autoscribing. Showing a
> different kind of Zoom minutes future, which is fast, complete and
> accessible.
>
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 11:48 AM Kim Hamilton <kimdhamilton@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> alternate zoom-based future uses my vtt2irc tool to process zoom
>> autoscribe results and looks like this:
>> https://w3c-ccg.github.io/meetings/2020-10-19-vc-education/
>>
>> More fixes needed, but pretty neato!
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 8:57 AM Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/26/20 2:31 PM, Heather Vescent wrote:
>>> > For me, this is about practicality and accessibility, not technological
>>> > fundamentalism. It's about enabling the chairs and the community to
>>> most
>>> > effectively make positive change in the future of credentials, wallets,
>>> > DIDs, VCs, SSI, e.g. the topic at hand.
>>>
>>> If folks want to see what a Zoom-based future looks like, you only have
>>> to look at how the DIF SDS WG's transcripts and recordings are going:
>>>
>>> Entire meetings missing transcripts, no transcripts being sent to W3C
>>> CCG mailing list (a joint partner in that work effort):
>>>
>>> https://lists.identity.foundation/g/sds-wg/wiki/23488
>>> https://lists.identity.foundation/g/sds-wg/wiki/23489
>>> https://lists.identity.foundation/g/sds-wg/wiki/23480
>>> https://lists.identity.foundation/g/sds-wg/wiki/23011
>>> https://lists.identity.foundation/g/sds-wg/wiki/22693
>>>
>>> Entire meeting recordings and transcripts missing:
>>>
>>> https://lists.identity.foundation/g/sds-wg/wiki/23066
>>> https://lists.identity.foundation/g/sds-wg/wiki/22687
>>>
>>> ... and all of those recordings and transcripts are on proprietary
>>> infrastructure that could disappear tomorrow (no backups).
>>>
>>> That is no way to build an open standard.
>>>
>>> To be clear, I'm not throwing shade at the DIF SDS WG Chairs or DIF...
>>> they're doing their best with what they have. That said, those
>>> transparency gaps are what not having the proper infrastructure and
>>> humans involved at every step of the process leads to. That is what our
>>> future looks like if we switch to Zoom permanently.
>>>
>>> We need infrastructure that helps us run meetings AND record what
>>> happened in those meetings for archival, accessibility, and intellectual
>>> property release purposes. Zoom only solves part of the equation and
>>> will never get us to something that's fully automated. Jitsi provides a
>>> path forward for full automation... but it'll take time and effort to
>>> get there.
>>>
>>> -- manu
>>>
>>> --
>>> Manu Sporny - https://www.linkedin.com/in/manusporny/
>>> Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc.
>>> blog: Veres One Decentralized Identifier Blockchain Launches
>>> https://tinyurl.com/veres-one-launches
>>>
>>>
>
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