Re: Privacy-protecting contact tracer for COVID-19? [was Re: A Moment of Silence #Foremembrance Today at 19:06 CET, 2:06 pm EDT, 11:06 am PDT, and Saturday at 2:06am in Hong Kong & Taipei]

On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 18:21, Ian Smith <ian@vidicode.pro> wrote:

> spoiler alert, coronavirus antibodies for MERS last 8 to 10 years, SARS 1
> to 2 years, swine flu months, "standard flu " months. covid-19 has been
> potentially false reported as having a 2 week immunity in some people. IGF
> and IGM antibodies are also different time scales. The ability to increase
> production of antibodies after they fall but are still known how to make
> may or may not less to contagion periods. We need to wait for science.
>

Thank you for an important clarification.  "We need to wait for the
science".  Amen!


>
> On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, 12:01 PM Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 at 04:38, David Booth <david@dbooth.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/27/20 11:18 PM, Moses Ma wrote:
>>> > How do y’all feel about Singapore’s TraceTogether?
>>> > See:
>>> >
>>> https://www.businessinsider.com/singapore-coronavirus-app-tracking-testing-no-shutdown-how-it-works-2020-3
>>> > Also:
>>> >
>>> https://www.tech.gov.sg/media/technews/tracetogether-behind-the-scenes-look-at-its-development-process
>>> >
>>> > How would you design a fully decentralized contact tracer?
>>>
>>> Or, more broadly: how would you design a privacy-protecting contact
>>> tracer?  This is urgently needed.
>>>
>>> Potential variations: 1. The app notifies you if it determines that you
>>> may have been exposed to COVID-19, without saying how it made that
>>> determination.  2. The app notifies healthcare officials that you may
>>> have been exposed, without telling them how it made that determination.
>>>
>>> Ideas?
>>>
>>> David Booth
>>>
>>
>> On the topic of credentials.  From reddit:
>>
>> *Germany will issue coronavirus antibody certificates to allow
>> quarantined to re-enter society*
>>
>> Of course we have no data on how well these antibodies perform, or how
>> long they last.  Spoilers alert, other Covid's antibodies tend to fall
>> precipitously after 2 years.
>>
>>
>> https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/fraaa9/germany_will_issue_coronavirus_antibody/
>>
>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Moses
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -
>>> > *Moses Ma | FutureLab Consulting Inc*
>>> > moses.ma@futurelabconsulting.com | moses@ngenven.com
>>> > v +1.415.952.7888 <tel:+1.415.952.7888> | m +1.415.568.1068
>>> > <tel:+1.415.568.1068> | skype mosesma
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> On Mar 27, 2020 at 9:44 AM, <Ian Smith <mailto:ian@vidicode.pro>>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> proposing anti covid-19 protests to avoid saving lives is part of the
>>> >> ethos here? I wasn't aware that preventing the countermeasure to
>>> >> pandemic response was what this group was about
>>> >>
>>> >> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020, 6:10 AM Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com
>>> >> <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.com>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>     On 3/27/20 8:41 AM, Daniel Hardman wrote:
>>> >>     > I will try to join you. Thank you for suggesting it.
>>> >>
>>> >>     I can't join, but thank you for the message and I'll observe the
>>> >>     moment
>>> >>     of silence, Christopher.
>>> >>
>>> >>     Visiting the memorial in person with people from this group was
>>> moving
>>> >>     and a reminder that we need to keep these painful lessons from the
>>> >>     past
>>> >>     in mind as we build out these systems.
>>> >>
>>> >>     > @Ian: I share your frustration with the surveillance economy,
>>> >>     but feel
>>> >>     > that your comment steps away from the ethos of our group.
>>> >>
>>> >>     I'd like to underscore Daniel's comment. Many of us are in this
>>> group
>>> >>     because we share in the frustration with the current surveillance
>>> >>     economy. That said, the frustration is no excuse to tear down what
>>> >>     others in the community are building. Your criticism was not
>>> >>     constructive, please refrain from doing that again.
>>> >>
>>> >>     We need to focus on helping each other build the world that we
>>> want to
>>> >>     see realized.
>>> >>
>>> >>     -- manu
>>> >>
>>> >>     --
>>> >>     Manu Sporny - https://www.linkedin.com/in/manusporny/
>>> >>     Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc.
>>> >>     blog: Veres One Decentralized Identifier Blockchain Launches
>>> >>     https://tinyurl.com/veres-one-launches
>>> >>
>>>
>>>

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