Re: Privacy-protecting contact tracer for COVID-19? [was Re: A Moment of Silence #Foremembrance Today at 19:06 CET, 2:06 pm EDT, 11:06 am PDT, and Saturday at 2:06am in Hong Kong & Taipei]

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 at 04:38, David Booth <david@dbooth.org> wrote:

> On 3/27/20 11:18 PM, Moses Ma wrote:
> > How do y’all feel about Singapore’s TraceTogether?
> > See:
> >
> https://www.businessinsider.com/singapore-coronavirus-app-tracking-testing-no-shutdown-how-it-works-2020-3
> > Also:
> >
> https://www.tech.gov.sg/media/technews/tracetogether-behind-the-scenes-look-at-its-development-process
> >
> > How would you design a fully decentralized contact tracer?
>
> Or, more broadly: how would you design a privacy-protecting contact
> tracer?  This is urgently needed.
>
> Potential variations: 1. The app notifies you if it determines that you
> may have been exposed to COVID-19, without saying how it made that
> determination.  2. The app notifies healthcare officials that you may
> have been exposed, without telling them how it made that determination.
>
> Ideas?
>
> David Booth
>

On the topic of credentials.  From reddit:

*Germany will issue coronavirus antibody certificates to allow quarantined
to re-enter society*

Of course we have no data on how well these antibodies perform, or how long
they last.  Spoilers alert, other Covid's antibodies tend to fall
precipitously after 2 years.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/fraaa9/germany_will_issue_coronavirus_antibody/


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> > Moses
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> > *Moses Ma | FutureLab Consulting Inc*
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> >> On Mar 27, 2020 at 9:44 AM, <Ian Smith <mailto:ian@vidicode.pro>>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> proposing anti covid-19 protests to avoid saving lives is part of the
> >> ethos here? I wasn't aware that preventing the countermeasure to
> >> pandemic response was what this group was about
> >>
> >> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020, 6:10 AM Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com
> >> <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     On 3/27/20 8:41 AM, Daniel Hardman wrote:
> >>     > I will try to join you. Thank you for suggesting it.
> >>
> >>     I can't join, but thank you for the message and I'll observe the
> >>     moment
> >>     of silence, Christopher.
> >>
> >>     Visiting the memorial in person with people from this group was
> moving
> >>     and a reminder that we need to keep these painful lessons from the
> >>     past
> >>     in mind as we build out these systems.
> >>
> >>     > @Ian: I share your frustration with the surveillance economy,
> >>     but feel
> >>     > that your comment steps away from the ethos of our group.
> >>
> >>     I'd like to underscore Daniel's comment. Many of us are in this
> group
> >>     because we share in the frustration with the current surveillance
> >>     economy. That said, the frustration is no excuse to tear down what
> >>     others in the community are building. Your criticism was not
> >>     constructive, please refrain from doing that again.
> >>
> >>     We need to focus on helping each other build the world that we want
> to
> >>     see realized.
> >>
> >>     -- manu
> >>
> >>     --
> >>     Manu Sporny - https://www.linkedin.com/in/manusporny/
> >>     Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc.
> >>     blog: Veres One Decentralized Identifier Blockchain Launches
> >>     https://tinyurl.com/veres-one-launches
> >>
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