- From: W3C CCG Chairs <w3c.ccg@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2020 10:39:19 -0700 (PDT)
Thanks to Ganesh Annan for scribing this week! The minutes for this week's Credentials CG telecon are now available: https://w3c-ccg.github.io/meetings/2020-03-10/ Full text of the discussion follows for W3C archival purposes. Audio from the meeting is available as well (link provided below). ---------------------------------------------------------------- Credentials CG Telecon Minutes for 2020-03-10 Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-credentials/2020Mar/0007.html Topics: 1. Introductions & Reintroductions 2. Announcements & Reminders 3. Progress on Action Items 4. DIF/W3C agreement in place 5. ZKP (Cred) Primer with Daniel Hardman Organizer: Joe Andrieu and Christopher Allen and Kim Hamilton Duffy Scribe: Ganesh Annan Present: Sumita Jonak, Chris Winczewski, Adrian Gropper, Joe Andrieu, Amy Guy, Dave Longley, Ganesh Annan, Ryan Grant, Kayode Ezike, Steven Pattison, Brent Zundel, Jon St John, Ken Ebert, Jeff Orgel, Joel Hartshorn, Kaliya Young, Dmitri Zagidulin, Tom S, Nate Otto Audio: https://w3c-ccg.github.io/meetings/2020-03-10/audio.ogg Amy Guy: Regrets+ Prseent+ http://j.mp/37ZIy5B https://www.w3.org/community/credentials/join https://www.w3.org/accounts/request https://www.w3.org/community/about/agreements/cla/ https://w3c-ccg.github.io/meetings/ https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LkqZ10z7FeV3EgMIQEJ9achEYMzy1d_2S90Q_lQ0y8M/edit?usp=sharing Jeff Orgel: Unavailable to do soy, apologies... Ganesh Annan: Kimhd_: yes Ganesh Annan: I can scribe Jeff Orgel: Thanks Gannan! Ganesh Annan is scribing. Topic: Introductions & Reintroductions Jon St John: Hi, I'm Jon St John from Anonyome Labs Kimhd_: Dmitri re you on the call? Ganesh Annan: I'm Ganesh. I'm a program manager at Digital Bazaar, I gather requirements and implement VCs and DIDs Topic: Announcements & Reminders https://w3c-ccg.github.io/announcements/ Kimhd_: Just got an email that KNOW Identity has been postponed ...RWOT is going to be done virtually ...Christopher could you speak to it Joe Andrieu: We are not going to do a virtual meeting due to time constraints. Kimhd_: Thank you. Adrian Gropper: I'm trying to see if there is anyone interested to work on an app for pandemic mitigation. ... put a link in the chat for people to look at ... contact me directly if interested Kimhd_: KNOW Identity is postponed https://www.eventbrite.com/e/internet-identity-workshop-iiwxxx-30-2020a-tickets-79016788341 ... IIW is not cancelled yet http://www.cvent.com/d/fhqnf3/4W ... Identiverse has not been cancelled yet ... I am in Seattle and things are crazy around here ... how could a developer help? https://github.com/nextstrain/nextstrain.org/issues/127 ... the tools that they are using here are things like github Kaliya Young: Adrian can you re-post the link? ... I pasted a link to an issue ... they deal with people with how people are able to help ... helping out with documentation ... if you want to help out please just let me know ... you can look at their github directly or email me Topic: Progress on Action Items ... we may not have a lot to talk about here ... please add yourself if there is anything you want to report out. https://github.com/w3c-ccg/community/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3A%22action%3A+review+next%22 Kimhd_: Closing out the DVCG... ...anyone have anything they want to share on this ... I noticed a lot of activity ... noticed a lot of website re-directions and github redirections Orie_: If you have an item in DVCG... ... if you want active contribution ... please help move it ... as soon as we move the repos ... the closer we will be to finishing ... either mark to archive it or propose where it should be moved ... if the group is able to do this we can complete this faster. Kimhd_: Thank you Orie Kimhd_: That was it for action items. Topic: DIF/W3C agreement in place Kimhd_: Balazs you are next. Balazs__DIF_: We came to agreement between W3C and DIF... ... DIF will be holding the secure data storage WG ... our first scoping call will be centered around an update ... will be creating the scope around the WG for the call ... everyone who is interested and attended the super friends call - we will do our 3rd one ... this will have the legal backing and we are ready to start Kimhd_: Any questions? https://foundation.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=7d1001f187a746b68d2ea0d28&id=0d2c94018e&e=9a0a9edd2d ... did you send out the information about the call on Friday? Balazs__DIF_: I can send a follow-up. ... just also pasted a link to the form that can be used. Kimhd_: Questions? Topic: ZKP (Cred) Primer with Daniel Hardman http://j.mp/37ZIy5B ... next is the ZKP Primer by Daniel Hardman Kimhd_: Over to Daniel Hardman Joe Andrieu: Earlier Daniel you established the idea of approximately zero... ... isn't the signature approximately 0 Dhh: No it is not 0 Dave Longley: The term approximately plays a role when the signature value and a super unique name carries the same weight... Dhh: Slide 24 addresses that a little bit. We can talk about it more when we get there. https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/12i_dBRCC864WcipEywz_WFSqvxPUKTA_KBqWzW-Hq2c/edit#slide=id.g6fffce0de9_0_109 Dave Longley: My other question is ZKP Proof vs. ZKP Arguments... ... ZK Snarks are different than ZK Proofs ... ZK Proofs gives you computational zero knowledge ... if someone has enough computational power then it can be broken ... are these not computational bound Dhh: The distinction that you are making is about the formal definition... ... when someone wags their finger they are usually living in formal definition land ... the short answer is ZK Snarks and other things like it is what ZKP creds include ... I am talking about ZKPs in the informal sense as long as they meet the canonical definition ... back to slide 14. Dave Longley: Seems "it's not a ZKP" is a matter of perspective and that's important to note Kimhd_: Thank you this is a great overview... ... we maybe will be able to have you on for a follow up discussion. Kimhd_: Thank you everyone!
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