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Re: Privacy-protecting contact tracer for COVID-19? [was Re: A Moment of Silence #Foremembrance Today at 19:06 CET, 2:06 pm EDT, 11:06 am PDT, and Saturday at 2:06am in Hong Kong & Taipei]

From: Moses Ma <moses.ma@futurelabconsulting.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 22:17:10 -0700
To: public-credentials@w3.org
Message-ID: <268fc555-c2fb-2410-4277-4f0b81aa281e@futurelabconsulting.com>
On 4/2/20 5:09 PM, David Booth wrote:
> Thanks Moses, this project looks impressive.  Two quick questions:
> 1. What license?  Free and open source, I hope?

Thanks Dave!

Yes, we'll open source everything for this. Our chance to save the 
world... literally.

> 2. Have you contacted the TraceTogether developers?  Their web page 
> says "We are working around the clock to finalise our protocol 
> reference documents and reference implementation, to open source what 
> we have built", though I have not yet seen a release announcement.  It 
> would be good to benefit as much as possible from work that has 
> already been done.

Yes, we'll build on top of what they're doing and have learned.

We will approach them for a partnership, and push the idea of DIDs, VCs 
and interoperability for global travelers, after we have a testing venue 
signed up, like a city... with the state or country backing the play?

Moses




> On 4/2/20 4:33 PM, Moses Ma wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I just wanted to provide an update on our effort to create a fast 
>> track initiative for intelligent privacy-preserving contact tracing...
>>
>> A) Things are moving quickly! We're meeting with an interested 
>> investor tomorrow morning, we have some traction in one state and one 
>> country without trying, and we have some running code that gives us a 
>> head start.
>>
>> B) A number of RWOT participants have asked to help, so we've set up 
>> a Zoom call on Monday for those who are willing to pitch in. This is 
>> going to be a "front line" effort, so we don't have time for 
>> opinions. Please let me know if you'd like to join the call and get 
>> to work - it's important you are ready to contribute code or do some 
>> coding or help with fundraising efforts in a somewhat selfless way. 
>> And I apologize in advance to being bossy and cutting off 
>> opinionators, the working model we seek is that of a cohesive 
>> self-optimizing team with a single captain.
>>
>> We will be triaging an imperfect solution that would normally elicit 
>> a lot of opinions, but I think our less than perfect app would be 
>> much better than whatever Jared Kushner is planning to roll out 
>> through his shadow committee, if we don't act now.
>>
>> Also, if you're out of work because of the pandemic, there is likely 
>> paid work for you in the future via this effort - so stay tuned.
>>
>> C) You can download the current project overview here: 
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/lg05fp5f2d2qxry/COVID-defender%20OVERVIEW.pdf?dl=0
>>
>> The most important strategic move is to declare a two phase release, 
>> with something good but not perfect, with vital features triaged, to 
>> be deployable by early May. Phase II will contain the more visionary 
>> stuff to deploy later in the year.
>>
>> And what I'd like to do is form three workteams to brainstorm the 
>> following short term components of the solution:
>>
>>  1. Team 1 will focus on a "down payment on Verifiable Credentials" for
>>     immunity management. This needs to include whether a user has
>>     verifiable healthcare experience and can be tapped to support a
>>     second line for relieving front line healthcare workers.
>>  2. Team 2 will focus on adapting DIDs into a global lightweight UUDID
>>     so users can travel internationally and integrate contact reporting
>>     in some clever way. Interoperability is vital because a patchwork
>>     quilt of silo'ed contact tracers are already being deployed.
>>  3. Team 3 will require a number of security architects to review our
>>     proposed AI/big data solution - we're going to try to detect
>>     asymptomatic spreaders by analyzing the "wake" of a spreader or
>>     superspreader through a social chain. Our team includes a number of
>>     leaders in the AI/optimization/epidemiology space, but we need for
>>     you to review what they come up with to insure it supports decent
>>     privacy, at least for an application that would normally require
>>     intrusive methods.
>>
>> My vision for a workteam is a strong lead, with a team of 3-5 action 
>> oriented self-starters who can code quickly.
>>
>> We're limiting the call to 20 participants and we're half full now. 
>> So if you are ready to volunteer to work, please let me know you'd 
>> like to join the call. We'll record it and distribute to everyone else.
>>
>> Thanks and stay healthy out there!
>>
>> Moses
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/2/20 8:39 AM, Juan Caballero wrote:
>>> I found this very clear and didactic questionnaire intended for 
>>> people designing or evaluating contact tracers.  I thought it might 
>>> be useful to disseminate:
>>> https://cpg.doc.ic.ac.uk/blog/evaluating-contact-tracing-apps-here-are-8-privacy-questions-we-think-you-should-ask/ 
>>>
>>>
>>> This group needs scribes and multipliers more than opinions, but 
>>> I'll limit myself to one: +100 to Adrian's invitation to prioritize 
>>> collaboration and model consensus. I don't think our efforts will be 
>>> of much use to any public health authorities unless they are 
>>> cohesive end-to-end.
>>>
>>> juan
>> On 4/1/20 6:59 PM, Paola Di Maio wrote:
>>> Thank you Moses
>>>
>>> this is exactly what happened to me a week ago or so, as I told in 
>>> my response to David Booth who started this thread.
>>> It must have been this technology, but it is deployed
>>> elsewhere as well, below the radar. They may have satellite reach 
>>> across borders
>>> it is not limited to one country.
>>>  It does not have any approval from the legit government
>>> who does not know this is taking place.  Thsi is extra 
>>> constitutional  and unlegislated
>>> where I am.
>>> (I have been tackled and harassed with this tech before covid by 
>>> anonymous secret states
>>> and I now do not take my cell with me when I go out unless I have to.)
>>> Thanks for sharing, so we know this is happening, and the good news 
>>> is that I am not crazy.
>>> PDM
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 6:12 AM Moses Ma 
>>> <moses.ma@futurelabconsulting.com 
>>> <mailto:moses.ma@futurelabconsulting.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Hey all,
>>>
>>>     Israel is now tracking instrusively via cellphones:
>>> https://www.npr.org/2020/03/19/818327945/israel-begins-tracking-and-texting-those-possibly-exposed-to-the-coronavirus
>>>
>>>     /"Big Brother is here," wrote Omer, a young father, on Facebook,
>>>     minutes after he received a text message that he'd been close to a
>>>     virus carrier the previous week./
>>>
>>>     This is the message they send:
>>>
>>>         "Hello. According to an epidemiological investigation, you
>>>         were near someone sick with the coronavirus. You must
>>>         immediately isolate at home [14 days] to protect your
>>>         relatives and the public. ... This information will be used
>>>         only for this purpose and will be erased when no longer
>>>         needed. Sincerely, public health services."
>>>
>>>     Ehud, can you get us more info to sense the ground truth over 
>>> there?
>>>
>>>     I'll be able to say more about our approach, that will leverage
>>>     VCs and maybe DIDs, soon... but we're getting traction with one
>>>     state and one country's MOH. Things moving quickly!
>>>
>>>     Moses
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     On 3/27/20 9:55 PM, Ehud Shapiro אהוד שפירא wrote:
>>>>     I mentioned the fact that it is open source not as a testimony
>>>>     for its being good, but as a practical advice for people in
>>>>     countries that do not have it, so that they can easily adopt it
>>>>     and adapt it to their own country's needs.
>>>>     Separately, I have sent an opinion by  Adi Shamir (the S in RSA,
>>>>     a Turing-award winner and a leading authority on security and
>>>>     privacy).
>>>>     Be safe,
>>>>     Udi
>>>>
>>>
>>>     --
>>>     *Moses Ma | Managing Partner*
>>>
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>>
>> -- 
>>
>> *Moses Ma | Managing Partner*
>>
>> moses.ma@futurelabconsulting.com | moses@ngenven.com
>>
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Or whet your appetite by reading /Agile Innovation/ 
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| /Quantum Design Sprint/ 
<https://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Design-Sprint-Application-Disruptive/dp/1799143864> 
| my blog at /psychologytoday.com/ 
<http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-tao-innovation>.

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